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TTIP Documents Revealed

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#11
How about some reciprocation on immigration laws as well? How fair and free can this agreement be if the immigration flow in one of the directions is so much easier than in the other?

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#12
The estimated benefit of TTIP is 400,000 jobs and 0.5% GDP for the EU. Not much.

Apparently, the few selected MoP in Germany who were given access to the drafts had a few hours to look at a 1000+ pages, in English legalese, with a dictionary but no internet access.

Apparently, the drafts were full of certain spelling errors. The assumption was that they were personalized and injected on purpose such that photographs could be traced back to the origin.

Source - German media coverage.

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post #2

All I see is a single post and an image of a container ship, is my browser broken or are there no documents?

Hit the International Home or German Edition links on the left hand side. Looks like the german newspaper has a lot more articles though.

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post #11

How about some reciprocation on immigration laws as well? How fair and free can this agreement be if the immigration flow in one of the directions is so much easier than in the other?

Which direction is that (honest question, I suspect US -> EU being easier, but I recall companies having trouble "importing" Americans as well...)?

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#15
That overzealous secrecy around TTIP is a shame. It doesn't look like such a bad piece of legislation. The overall theme seems to be some deregulation on EU side (as generally EU is the over-regulated side) and bringing regulatory standards closer together. The IP protections are the most concerning part so far IMO?

I don't know much about that kind of negotiations, the secrecy might as well be the right strategy to push it through I guess?

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post #15

That overzealous secrecy around TTIP is a shame. It doesn't look like such a bad piece of legislation. The overall theme seems to be some deregulation on EU side (as generally EU is the over-regulated side) and bringing regulatory standards closer together. The IP protections are the most concerning part so far IMO? I don't know much about that kind of negotiations, the secrecy might as well be the right strategy to…

" the secrecy might as well be the right strategy to push it through I guess"

Why not canceling this whole concept of democracy.

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> The U.S. government concurrently has criticized the fundamental prevention principal of the EU Consumer Centre which protects 500 million Europeans from consuming genetically modified food and hormone-treated meat.

Good for the EU. If only our government showed the same care for its own citizens.

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post #15

That overzealous secrecy around TTIP is a shame. It doesn't look like such a bad piece of legislation. The overall theme seems to be some deregulation on EU side (as generally EU is the over-regulated side) and bringing regulatory standards closer together. The IP protections are the most concerning part so far IMO? I don't know much about that kind of negotiations, the secrecy might as well be the right strategy to…

The most alarming features of this proposed legislation are the facts that it contains this:

".. it also contains an ‘investor protection’ provision allowing corporations to effectively sue governments for taking action to harm their business."

(source: http://www.publicfinanceinternational.org/news/2016/02/ttip-...)

So .. effectively, this could mean that a corporation could overrule a government in legislation if it would be harming it's profits.

The big problem with this for example here in Finland is that through these measure big corporations could try to take over the nations natural resources, like water and forest, which are and should be protected by local laws. But through this kind of legal means, these corporations could be allowed to sue the government over the loss of a profit due to protecting legislation, in order just to make a profit out of it. Which is complete and total bullshit.

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post #15

That overzealous secrecy around TTIP is a shame. It doesn't look like such a bad piece of legislation. The overall theme seems to be some deregulation on EU side (as generally EU is the over-regulated side) and bringing regulatory standards closer together. The IP protections are the most concerning part so far IMO? I don't know much about that kind of negotiations, the secrecy might as well be the right strategy to…

"(as generally EU is the over-regulated side)

Why is regulation a bad thing? These rules exist for a reason in health/food for example.

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post #19
post #15

That overzealous secrecy around TTIP is a shame. It doesn't look like such a bad piece of legislation. The overall theme seems to be some deregulation on EU side (as generally EU is the over-regulated side) and bringing regulatory standards closer together. The IP protections are the most concerning part so far IMO? I don't know much about that kind of negotiations, the secrecy might as well be the right strategy to…

"(as generally EU is the over-regulated side) Why is regulation a bad thing? These rules exist for a reason in health/food for example.

Generally I agree with you.

The recent changes to VAT feel like a mess. Maybe I'm missing something there and they're not as bad as they seem?

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