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Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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And it is still slower than good old Eclipse.

In theory, the new "instant run" feature addresses some of the "clean, build, deploy, run" pain.

http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/instant-run

In practice, what I've seen so far is that sometimes I'm not sure what is being "instantly run" -- my latest code change or something older. Still trying to gain confidence in that feature (or just not use it because I don't understand what it's deploying all the time).

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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And it is still slower than good old Eclipse.

Not just slower , it does not fit to native look and feel, You are not going to believe me how much time I spent for fixing ridiculous font rendering for Android Studio, at the end I just gave up (in Ubuntu. I tried all kind of patches, TuxJdk, changing arguments for OpenJdk, OracleJdk , changing fontconfig, using infinality and anything you can imagine. nothing works). Right now I am switching to Xamarin,Perfect sup…

Yeah. There's something to be said for having a highly developed intelligence for building great IDEs and libraries at the _organization level_ rather than just at the individual programmer level. Despite its reputation for hiring the very best programmers in the world, Google's ability to create a really great developer toolchain for Android didn't measure up to what Microsoft has been doing for decades.

It seems like Google has tried to pursue a cheap shortcut to IDE greatness, at first by building a plugin for Eclipse, and then, by putting some money into a relationship with IntelliJ and Gradle (who truly are excellent at what they do).

But still, Google has not brought the excellence of organization and deep commitment fully in-house.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Yeah I just started dabbling with it and I have an ultra fast windows 10 laptop with solid state drive and I'm amazed at how long it takes to go from changing a line of code to running it in the emulator. I was originally planning to do dev work for android in a virtual machine like everything else I work on but I doubt it would be anywhere near performant enough.

If you wanna feel something rare, find a win98 box on a pentium 2/3 and run turbo pascal IDE. Enjoy the paradoxical bliss. ps: TURBO.EXE amounts to a whopping 600KB.

Or if you're into something more modern, Delphi 7 will do. And it'll probably run on modern Windows.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Maybe this is better left as a comment SO, but we have been unable to any recent version of Android Studio for our development team for the past four months because we use a mapFragment in our app. It's a known error [0] in the Maps API v2. I understand the complexity Google is facing, but I can't imagine Apple not addressing such a fundamental UI capability in their dev tools. Frustrating.

[0] https://code.google.com/p/gmaps-api-issues/issues/detail?id=...

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you wanna feel something rare, find a win98 box on a pentium 2/3 and run turbo pascal IDE. Enjoy the paradoxical bliss. ps: TURBO.EXE amounts to a whopping 600KB.

Or if you're into something more modern, Delphi 7 will do. And it'll probably run on modern Windows.

I can't decide which I prefer, the charm of text mode(TP7.0 was really pretty and nice) or the look'n'feel of early windows GUIs (Windows 3 / OS2 warp beveled boxes and pale hues are so nice).

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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And it is still slower than good old Eclipse.

I don't think it's the IDE, it's the build system. When Google pushed everyone over to Android Studio they also pushed everyone from Ant to Gradle. Gradle is supposed to be a better Maven but it's just dog slow. Just typing gradle --help takes over 3 seconds on my Macbook Pro.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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Maybe this is better left as a comment SO, but we have been unable to any recent version of Android Studio for our development team for the past four months because we use a mapFragment in our app. It's a known error [0] in the Maps API v2. I understand the complexity Google is facing, but I can't imagine Apple not addressing such a fundamental UI capability in their dev tools. Frustrating. [0] https://code.google.co…

For several months XCode would just crash when I tried to run my application with debugging. It was eventually fixed by an XCode update.

I think the only large platform owning company that has really succeeded with development tools is Microsoft. With Microsoft's newfound interest in cross platform development I'm looking forward to the day when I can just develop entirely in Visual Studio.

Re: Android Studio 2.0 Is Google’s New, Improved Development Suite

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And it is still slower than good old Eclipse.

I don't think it's the IDE, it's the build system. When Google pushed everyone over to Android Studio they also pushed everyone from Ant to Gradle. Gradle is supposed to be a better Maven but it's just dog slow. Just typing gradle --help takes over 3 seconds on my Macbook Pro.

Migrating to sbt-android has been a revelation coming from Gradle.

It's bizarre that a one-man-team beats the mighty Google in pretty much everything.

The build is so freaking fast that it runs ProGuard by default – and beats a Gradle build without ProGuard.

That dev implemented and shipped Instant Run way before Google "invented" it, and it's still faster compared to Google's implementation.

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