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Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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Well, few things give more attention to something than attempts to bury it. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

A search with bing for 'uc davis' highlights three recent articles written about their coverup. Streisand's effect indeed!

Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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post #3

It's been a while since I've looked into these "reputation" services. Do they actually work, when not hit by the Streisand effect, or is it just snake oil?

Anecdotal but from the various policies I've observed on my sites, a shill DMCA-like notice to remove content is often enough to get that content removed. A service that does nothing but send thousands of these to all top google searches would seem feasible and somewhat effective. Again the internet is not free if we use it as a collection of walled gardens.

Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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post #3

It's been a while since I've looked into these "reputation" services. Do they actually work, when not hit by the Streisand effect, or is it just snake oil?

Anecdotal but from the various policies I've observed on my sites, a shill DMCA-like notice to remove content is often enough to get that content removed. A service that does nothing but send thousands of these to all top google searches would seem feasible and somewhat effective. Again the internet is not free if we use it as a collection of walled gardens.

But that would be a criminal offence, right?

Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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post #4

White did not respond to messages left for her last month or Wednesday, but a résumé posted for her on LinkedIn cites her experience handling “a successful 6 month long strategic SEO (search engine optimization) and online reputation management campaign for the University of California, Davis, and Chancellor Linda Katehi.” Culminating with a lengthy feature in the Sacramento Bee. Mission accomplished.

So ... do they get a refund? I'm guessing the consultants' contract covered them here, as they can't do much about a legit info request.

Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotal but from the various policies I've observed on my sites, a shill DMCA-like notice to remove content is often enough to get that content removed. A service that does nothing but send thousands of these to all top google searches would seem feasible and somewhat effective. Again the internet is not free if we use it as a collection of walled gardens.

But that would be a criminal offence, right?

Judging by all the other spam I get I think no. Especially if it's just a notice that they have no intention of actually following up on.

Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotal but from the various policies I've observed on my sites, a shill DMCA-like notice to remove content is often enough to get that content removed. A service that does nothing but send thousands of these to all top google searches would seem feasible and somewhat effective. Again the internet is not free if we use it as a collection of walled gardens.

But that would be a criminal offence, right?

Filing a false DMCA claim is perjury. However, not a single person has ever been prosecuted for this.

Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotal but from the various policies I've observed on my sites, a shill DMCA-like notice to remove content is often enough to get that content removed. A service that does nothing but send thousands of these to all top google searches would seem feasible and somewhat effective. Again the internet is not free if we use it as a collection of walled gardens.

But that would be a criminal offence, right?

Criminal offense in that it's perjury, but you could also be required to pay the other side's legal fees.

As far as I know, punishment for the perjury has never happened. The only case I know of where legal fees were paid is Automattic vs Steiner.

Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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I'm surprised the chancellor hasn't been forced to resign yet. Beyond authorizing the pepper spray incident, she's made many more questionable decisions. 1. Serving on the DeVry board without permission from the UC President, and receiving a generous paycheck. All while DeVry is under federal investigation. 2. Serving on the board of a company selling textbooks to students and receiving stock-based compensation total…

I'm surprised that the chancellor wasn't forced to resign after the release of the Kroll and Reynoso reports about the pepper spray incident. The police action against the protestors was illegal and the police department knew it. They only went forward because of Katehi's mistaken insistence that the occupiers were not members of the campus community and needed to be removed before the weekend lest these outsiders rape students. Had the police department handled the situation the way they wanted to, they would have removed the tents at night (when the laws against camping were clearly being violated) and when there weren't large crowds around.

Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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Well, few things give more attention to something than attempts to bury it. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

A search with bing for 'uc davis' highlights three recent articles written about their coverup. Streisand's effect indeed!

...with Bing?

Re: UC Davis spent thousands to scrub pepper spray references from Internet

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post #3

It's been a while since I've looked into these "reputation" services. Do they actually work, when not hit by the Streisand effect, or is it just snake oil?

The reputation services are actually rather entertaining to watch. I write a lot online, and a couple years ago, my older posts started attracting dozens of comments from a couple people who seemed to be in a frenzied hurry to get visible.

At first I couldn't figure out what was going on. Why would someone be writing "Great post!" on 20 of my stories at 11:30 p.m.? Then I did a little checking on the names of the posters. Turns out they all had some "incident" in their pasts. Now they or their consultants were pumping out huge amounts of bland, benign content from all sorts of accounts (news sites, Tumblr, etc.) in their real names. The net result: these new accounts and the resulting content swamped Google, becoming the top 50 or so search results. The bad stuff didn't totally vanish, but it now was relegated to much lower placement.

In terms of whether this stuff works, that's a tricky call. I think it all depends on what the nature of the client's problems are ... and how much the world can/should care about some past mistake as life plays out. Sometimes it's hard to argue with the desire for a fresh start. In other case, it's hopeless.

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