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Re: Apply HN: Bandhub – online music collaboration community

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Please please PLEASE authenticate over https. Currently you're just SHA512'ing your users' passwords and sending the hash over the wire in the clear. This is INCREDIBLY insecure and you're putting your users at risk. I don't know a good resource off the top of my head to best practices, could someone else provide a link?

Thanks. We will get it fixed.

Thank you!

Looks like a great idea and I will definitely check it out.

Re: Apply HN: Bandhub – online music collaboration community

#12
post #7

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It's very high. We are not doing anything scientific around it but talk to the users constantly and I can tell you they are very very happy. The phrase "changed my life" is recurrent.

I guess what I'm getting at is what do they mean when it says it changed their life? What is fulfilling to them? Where I'm going with this is what part of that can be increased and applied to a wider audience?

The ability to connect with other people and develop deep relationships around something as intimate as profound as music making is very powerful. Making new friends is life changing.

When you say applying it to a wider audience do you mean (i) to people who are not musicians or (ii) to musicians not in our focus segment ( e.g., people who play less frequently/more casually)

Re: Apply HN: Bandhub – online music collaboration community

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess what I'm getting at is what do they mean when it says it changed their life? What is fulfilling to them? Where I'm going with this is what part of that can be increased and applied to a wider audience?

The ability to connect with other people and develop deep relationships around something as intimate as profound as music making is very powerful. Making new friends is life changing. When you say applying it to a wider audience do you mean (i) to people who are not musicians or (ii) to musicians not in our focus segment ( e.g., people who play less frequently/more casually)

I mostly mean group (ii) at this point.

I'd want to talk to the current focus segment in depth, find out what makes them happiest about what they're doing with your product and look for ways to both increase the opportunities for those things and make them more accessible.

Is that making sense?

I think your current focus segment knows there's a rewarding feeling in return for the effort, and maybe group (ii) isn't as aware, or doesn't know how to get there...

Re: Apply HN: Bandhub – online music collaboration community

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The ability to connect with other people and develop deep relationships around something as intimate as profound as music making is very powerful. Making new friends is life changing. When you say applying it to a wider audience do you mean (i) to people who are not musicians or (ii) to musicians not in our focus segment ( e.g., people who play less frequently/more casually)

I mostly mean group (ii) at this point. I'd want to talk to the current focus segment in depth, find out what makes them happiest about what they're doing with your product and look for ways to both increase the opportunities for those things and make them more accessible. Is that making sense? I think your current focus segment knows there's a rewarding feeling in return for the effort, and maybe group (ii) isn't as…

I think there is a lot of truth in what you say. Most of our users in our target focus segment ( i.e., people who already play 2hs a day ) feel very confident in learning, practicing, playing/recording songs. Making music is hard after all, requires a lot of dedication. A lot of people aspire to get there, but they are not confident, or know how to get there. That's why lessons are so important in this hobby.

Since our initial focused segment is big enough for us to get traction, we are not currently focused on expanding, but we will do so in the future and asking ourselves/our users the questions you suggest seems to be a good idea.

Re: Apply HN: Bandhub – online music collaboration community

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post #16

Do you see a synchronous collaboration solution in the future ? is it feasible technologically - due to latency ?

It is technologically feasible today within a distance radius of 200 miles or so if the internet infrastructure around you is solid[1]. But as I mentioned in another comment, synchronous collaboration has a lot of friction, so I think while this is really cool, it's sort of an icing in the cake type of experience more than the most used scenario. Asynchronous is more convenient. And Bandhub has a sort of "live" feel since it has video and most tracks are recorded in one take (so there could be some slight mistakes or imperfections that make it feel very "real"). If you haven't tried it yet you should. The "live" feel to it was a pleasant surprise.

[1]NOTE: Most of the latency is actually in the audio processing components (internal audio device, driver and application buffers). There is some specialized hardware that minimizes this latency, making it work well across <200miles distance (or so). After that, speed of light + internet router buffers add way too much latency and it starts to not work so well.

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