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I'm far from taking sides, but I am surprised it took Apple so long to start this type of banning. I am not sure how it benefits Apple in the long run, but I am sure that if the App Store were my business I probably would have done this. And sooner.
Why do people bother with iPhones? Seems like that in the time it takes to find exploits, you could just fix all the parts of Android you don't like instead.
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Jailbreaking allows the installation of cracked apps, which basically makes the App Store DRM a non-issue.
Only if you're okay with breaking the law* and standing on ethically questionable ground* just to use an app that you bought. If your ISP gets a DMCA notice because you were downloading a cracked version of an app that you already own, do you think they're going to accept the explanation that 'it's okay, I already own it'? What about in the context of some of the proposed 'three strikes' laws? Nasty potential minefie…
Why do people bother with iPhones? Seems like that in the time it takes to find exploits, you could just fix all the parts of Android you don't like instead.
Completely agree. Apple is becoming more and more user unfriendly. Why pay for that kind of abuse?
The beatings will continue until usability improves.
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Completely agree. Apple is becoming more and more user unfriendly. Why pay for that kind of abuse?
Because the abuse is precisely what makes the ecosystem as user-friendly as it is. They want any iPhone user to be able to pick up your iPhone and have it behave the way they expect. They don't want users to be scared of them the way they are of their PCs. They don't want the massive fragmentation present on Android. They don't want all the coolest software that would otherwise be AppStore-friendly coming out via use…
If that doesn't match with Apple's philosophy, they should at least be upfront with the idea that you're leasing the device and that Apple reserves the right to override anything you do to it because it doesn't match their "vision".
If only there was a way Apple could ensure there were no stickers, skins, or markings on individual iPhones. Then they could really make sure no one got confused and thought the iPhone was ugly!
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Jailbreaking allows the installation of cracked apps, which basically makes the App Store DRM a non-issue.
Only if you're okay with breaking the law* and standing on ethically questionable ground* just to use an app that you bought. If your ISP gets a DMCA notice because you were downloading a cracked version of an app that you already own, do you think they're going to accept the explanation that 'it's okay, I already own it'? What about in the context of some of the proposed 'three strikes' laws? Nasty potential minefie…
To me, that just sounds like doing what you want with a device you own, and telling Apple that you appreciate the sentiment but don't need their babysitting.
When you download a movie or a game from an unauthorized source, that's copyright infringement. When you download an exploit that lets you use your phone in the ways you want, that's just downloading an exploit; it doesn't transmit any substantial intellectual property owned by any other party, so I don't understand your complaint or comparison, really.
The one provision which jailbreaking may violate is the DMCA's restriction on circumvention of "copy protection". Technically, sharing any mechanism to circumvent "copy protection" is illegal in the United States. I don't think that jailbreaking qualifies as a circumvention of copy protection on balance, though, because most people aren't doing it to make copies, but of course that depends on the judge.
Why do people bother with iPhones? Seems like that in the time it takes to find exploits, you could just fix all the parts of Android you don't like instead.
Apart from the things which are completely unfixable by design - e.g. the iPhone's utterly standard screen size, touchscreen and lack of keyboard which means any app will work and which isn't something that can be retrofitted onto Android, and the things which it doesn't even make sense to talk about fixing, such as the already available third party apps, and the things which can't be implemented without violating Apple patents or Apple license agreements with third party companies or reverse engineering Apple sync protocols...
Apart from that, even if we agree that the amount of work is exactly the same (which I don't), that still leaves the implication that people who are interested in finding highly prized low-level exploits in iPhone software would be equally interested in (and skilled at) putting little appreciated internals and UI polish on a completely different system. Which is certainly not a given.
And that's assuming that the Android project leads would accept arbitrary and widespread changes.
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Because the abuse is precisely what makes the ecosystem as user-friendly as it is. They want any iPhone user to be able to pick up your iPhone and have it behave the way they expect. They don't want users to be scared of them the way they are of their PCs. They don't want the massive fragmentation present on Android. They don't want all the coolest software that would otherwise be AppStore-friendly coming out via use…
This doesn't really make sense. It's fine for Apple to release their phones a certain way because of those concerns. It's not fine for them to log into my phone and reset everything I've done because it doesn't match their overall vision for the device. It's my phone and I can do what I want to it. If that doesn't match with Apple's philosophy, they should at least be upfront with the idea that you're leasing the dev…
Why do people bother with iPhones? Seems like that in the time it takes to find exploits, you could just fix all the parts of Android you don't like instead.
Completely agree. Apple is becoming more and more user unfriendly. Why pay for that kind of abuse?
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Completely agree. Apple is becoming more and more user unfriendly. Why pay for that kind of abuse?
Hang on. How is the correction of a security bug in any way shape or form "abusing" users of iPhones. Frankly, if you want to reproach Apple on the subject of security holes, it's because they sometimes take a long time getting around to fix them. The fact that they fixed this one relatively rapidly deserves praise, not criticism.