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My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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Re: My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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All I can say is you're not alone. I've been diagnosed with major depressive disorder, have 4 kids (youngest is 7months) and I'm going through therapy and working on medication. It's aggravating because for me the medication takes time to make a difference. Also I'm working on 2 engineering jobs to make ends meet.

The thing that has helped is opening up to a select few of friends. I am not the kind of person to open up emotionally but realized that if I want my kids to have a healthy dad, I have to do something different. But the older kids have noticed my sadness.

My therapist told me something that helped and that is I should strive for progress and not perfection. A goal oriented person is striving for perfection but that's an impossible goal when going through depression.

The fog from depression initially made me believe I had no friends. But when I took time to observe my life and journal, I realized there were a few friends for which I eventually opened up to. It helps to have a support system in addition to any doctors you see.

Re: My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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Have you seen a doctor? Called a helpline?

A long time ago. It didn't help.

It's a disease. The problem is that there is no unique and universal treatment. It depends on the person.

You should try something like see a doctor and if that doesn't work try something else until it works and it can work and take a bit of time.

Re: My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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I'm pretty sure that I don't have depression but I've certainly felt "stuck". The responsibility of raising a family can be a heavy load - and a responsible father feels that weight. An irresponsible father doesn't feel the weight and it has little bearing on his decisions. Kudos for being a real dad - you'll imprint important life lessons on your daughters whether you realize it or not. My eldest daughter (almost 23) recently told me that she's only now realizing how much I sacrificed to make my family a safe and nurturing place for my kids.

In any case, when I feel "stuck", I look at specifically what's making me unhappy and what would make me happy. Then I form a long-term plan. You may not be able to quit your current work today, but what would it take to move into something you find rewarding. It might mean life-style changes: Got a car payment? Replace it with a beater you don't owe money on (my beater is really really nice but was a simple cash transaction).

I'd also caution you that you can't naturally work the long hours you're describing as a permanent schedule. You will burn out and/or your body will give out whether you have depression or not. If you're not exercising some minimum amount and you're not eating a healthy diet, that will also lower the threshold at which you give out.

I'm not a doctor or even a therapist - you should find one to talk with. I have however had joyless periods in my worklife, so please take my advice above with the understanding that you actually have two problems ... your depression is one and your lifestyle is the other. They will potentially exacerbate each other.

My email address is in my profile - feel free to correspond if you're interested in talking about the work related problems you're experiencing. Again, I'm not qualified to counsel you on the depression you're feeling. I've been in this industry for over 30 years, so you probably won't surprise me. Also notice my profile lists my family as my priority - they provide grounding for my work life.

Hope to hear from you ... and happy Easter.

P.S. I've got some job openings if you decide you need to make a work change. Perhaps there's something that matches your skills.

Re: My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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I'm like her dad. Reading her story may have altered my path, for the sake of my daughters, for a bit longer, I guess. I design software, I code, test and deploy. They think my work is good. It doesn't matter. I work until I'm tired and then I sleep. I hide my tears from my family. There's no joy in any of these projects, and I've lost all interest in my past side projects. I work so much I barely see my daughters be…

What city do you live in? Maybe if you share that some people here could give you a good therapist referral - and the therapist can give you suggestions for a psychiatrist to perhaps try some medication in addition to counseling.

Re: My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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All I can say is you're not alone. I've been diagnosed with major depressive disorder, have 4 kids (youngest is 7months) and I'm going through therapy and working on medication. It's aggravating because for me the medication takes time to make a difference. Also I'm working on 2 engineering jobs to make ends meet. The thing that has helped is opening up to a select few of friends. I am not the kind of person to open…

> The fog from depression initially made me believe I had no friends.

That fog is the hardest thing to deal with. I'm currently in a good spot, emotionally. In my case depression is a consequence of anxiety. Managing that better has kept me emotionally healthy.

But when I've been depressed I'd forget that I've had friends, good friends, for years that I could talk to and who would be there for me. It's not easy, but taking that step back to really examine your situation (as you've done) was the part that has turned me back from the brink several times in my life.

Re: My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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I'm like her dad. Reading her story may have altered my path, for the sake of my daughters, for a bit longer, I guess. I design software, I code, test and deploy. They think my work is good. It doesn't matter. I work until I'm tired and then I sleep. I hide my tears from my family. There's no joy in any of these projects, and I've lost all interest in my past side projects. I work so much I barely see my daughters be…

What city do you live in? Maybe if you share that some people here could give you a good therapist referral - and the therapist can give you suggestions for a psychiatrist to perhaps try some medication in addition to counseling.

I would recommend Person-centered therapy (Carl Rogers). It's a very human and soft approach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person-centered_therapy

Re: My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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I'm like her dad. Reading her story may have altered my path, for the sake of my daughters, for a bit longer, I guess. I design software, I code, test and deploy. They think my work is good. It doesn't matter. I work until I'm tired and then I sleep. I hide my tears from my family. There's no joy in any of these projects, and I've lost all interest in my past side projects. I work so much I barely see my daughters be…

Getting enough sleep? Do you have sleep apnea?

Re: My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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I'm like her dad. Reading her story may have altered my path, for the sake of my daughters, for a bit longer, I guess. I design software, I code, test and deploy. They think my work is good. It doesn't matter. I work until I'm tired and then I sleep. I hide my tears from my family. There's no joy in any of these projects, and I've lost all interest in my past side projects. I work so much I barely see my daughters be…

The first thing I always recommend: start doing physical activity. It doesn't need to be much; 30 minutes a day (start with less if needed). The difference is significant. Give it a try, please. Start tomorrow. Go out for a run for a bit. I have been (and still am) in the same position as you, although for different reasons, and sport makes a big difference. Wish you the best and be strong. Your daughters admire you and you will get out of this. It's easier said than done, but take my word.

Re: My dad hid his depression. I won’t hide mine

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All I can say is you're not alone. I've been diagnosed with major depressive disorder, have 4 kids (youngest is 7months) and I'm going through therapy and working on medication. It's aggravating because for me the medication takes time to make a difference. Also I'm working on 2 engineering jobs to make ends meet. The thing that has helped is opening up to a select few of friends. I am not the kind of person to open…

Yes. When my depression recurs as it periodically does, I remind myself to have faith in the process -- diet, exercise, talking to a therapist etc.
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