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South Korea announces $860M AI fund after AlphaGo 'shock'

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Re: South Korea announces $860M AI fund after AlphaGo 'shock'

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As a South Korean who experienced/heard about many government-backed researches, I strongly feel that this will go nowhere. Most of the time, there's always some bribery involved and project never finishes or come even close to that of the tech companies in US. The government then realizes it can't be done even with more money and puts the money elsewhere just to repeat the same thing. The examples that I can think of are when they were trying to build their own operating system and a video game console.

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EDIT: I've chosen to delete this comment. I disagree with the reply it received, and it also received numerous downvotes.

That sounds unlikely. We don't yet know the structure of the human brain in full detail, nor know everything about how it grows and develops, so how can you possibly replicate it?

Re: South Korea announces $860M AI fund after AlphaGo 'shock'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're spending less than a billion. Google/Alphabet is surely spending more than that.

Really things might get scary when the DOD decides to direct some of its monstrous military budget at AI (which I'm sure its already doing).

Just left a DARPA grant for an AI project. They've been one of the biggest AI funders for some time.

Re: South Korea announces $860M AI fund after AlphaGo 'shock'

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It's like that line from the Grizzwalds movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eRtv-d8k6g

You can't force fun. You can't force invention or innovation.

Money is useful, of course, but it does not guarantee results. Look at Asimo, probably the single most expensive and impressive joke in humanoid robotics.

Re: South Korea announces $860M AI fund after AlphaGo 'shock'

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The Japanese government tried this exact same idea for AI in the 1980s:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/05/business/fifth-generation-...

These 5 year targeted research (IMO an oxymoron) plans are always a waste of money, especially if they involve private for-profit companies. Take that money and spend it on 20 years of grants for basic computer science/robotics research in universities and then you will actually get new discoveries. South Korea's approach will only be effective in grifting tax dollars to the country's industrial conglomerates.

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post #16

The Japanese government tried this exact same idea for AI in the 1980s: http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/05/business/fifth-generation-... These 5 year targeted research (IMO an oxymoron) plans are always a waste of money, especially if they involve private for-profit companies. Take that money and spend it on 20 years of grants for basic computer science/robotics research in universities and then you will actually get…

I think the situation may be different now that AI is actually working.

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post #16

The Japanese government tried this exact same idea for AI in the 1980s: http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/05/business/fifth-generation-... These 5 year targeted research (IMO an oxymoron) plans are always a waste of money, especially if they involve private for-profit companies. Take that money and spend it on 20 years of grants for basic computer science/robotics research in universities and then you will actually get…

They do sometimes work, see the Manhattan project for proof.

Re: South Korea announces $860M AI fund after AlphaGo 'shock'

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post #11

As a South Korean who experienced/heard about many government-backed researches, I strongly feel that this will go nowhere. Most of the time, there's always some bribery involved and project never finishes or come even close to that of the tech companies in US. The government then realizes it can't be done even with more money and puts the money elsewhere just to repeat the same thing. The examples that I can think o…

That reminds me of what an engineer said about Quaero[0], a Franco-German attempt to create a competitor to Google search:

> Going head-to-head with Google with a project involving well-funded, energetic entrepreneurs would be foolish. Attempting the same with a multigovernment collaboration is beyond description.[1]

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaero

1: http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/internet/loser-whats-the-la...

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