I love that chart on the second to last page. The axis are labeled "Completeness of vision" and "Ability to execute".
Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies
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#12Postgresql's greatest advantage - no headache from dealing with BS from Oracle or MS.
Pay hundreds of thousands in support contracts, get peanuts (and/or worse advice than the documentation).
Free software saves money because you don't pay per core/processor/user/whatever. With proprietary software, you have to agree to auditing by the vendor (or their representative) and they decide whether you're in compliance. Why anyone would willingly agree to such agreements is beyond me.
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#13Why do companies choose Oracle nowadays? I mean valid technical reasons, not being clueless or stuck in the abusive relationship of vendor lock-in.
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#14 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
(Gandhi)
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#15Would be very interesting to have an open document listing alternatives from the PostgreSQL universe to every point in that document (a gitbook maybe?). A few minutes ago I was thinking that "database firewall" could be a problem, but then I found [0] immediately.
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#16I love that chart on the second to last page. The axis are labeled "Completeness of vision" and "Ability to execute".
This is Gartner's famous "Magic Quadrant".
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#17Postgresql's greatest advantage - no headache from dealing with BS from Oracle or MS.
+1 We have been building/rebuilding our applications on top of PostgreSQL but there are still a lot of departments that buy the "Oracle is better / We need paid support" propaganda. Props to Russia for their forward thinking views.
You can get paid support with Postgres : http://www.enterprisedb.com/products-services-training/subsc...
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#18I love that chart on the second to last page. The axis are labeled "Completeness of vision" and "Ability to execute".
I'm assuming Oracle is in the lower left?
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#19Why do companies choose Oracle nowadays? I mean valid technical reasons, not being clueless or stuck in the abusive relationship of vendor lock-in.
A common reason seems to be that the person in charge of procurement puts importance some operational aspect that Oracle has that other RDBMSs do not have. For example, some specific availability scenario that Oracle RAC solves, some security feature like row level security (which Postgres does have now) or some disaster recovery thing in RMAN. Most procurement processes only consider price once all criteria have been met so a common "attack vector" for an Oracle salesman is to get some criterion added that only Oracle can provide :).
The other common reason is if you'll be deploying some existing application on top of your RDBMS and it either only supports Oracle (ie: it uses Oracle's proprietary language somehow or simply not ported to Postgres) or you already have lots of Oracle DBAs. Most big organisations are very brownfield so the technology choice is path dependent.
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#20Why do companies choose Oracle nowadays? I mean valid technical reasons, not being clueless or stuck in the abusive relationship of vendor lock-in.
They buy application suites like peoplesoft, Oracle Finacials, Identity Suite, seibel, etc and end up getting an ELA for the database.
Once they get the shoulder in the door, they push to expand the database horizontally in the organization.
Microsoft has a similar strategy with CRM and SQL Server. SQL Server drives their corporate success.
Postgres vs. Oracle, etc is a pointless argument because it's answering the wrong question.