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Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by ruraljuror »

wimagguc wrote: post #4

> for the third year in a row, "full-stack developer" was the most common response [for occupation] Might be a loaded question, but doesn't full-stack mean just "web developer"? From the survey, "Full-stack developers are comfortable coding with 5 to 6 major languages or frameworks (vs. 4 for everyone else)" -- with knowing a bit of Wordpress that's fairly easy to collect: php, sql, html, javascript, css. Done. Or fu…

I don't think so. I think the self distinction is between developers who work exclusively on the front end or back end of websites vs those who do it all. My guess would be the correlation between the self identification has less to do with developer skill than to team/business size. If you are on a team of two or three people, and changes need to be made to the database, JS, and server-side code, you're going to be working across the full stack in a variety of languages. I don't think this approach lends itself to mastery or specialization, and so if you're like me you will be using SO to find out how to do simple things in JS.

But I see your point, the commentary suggests full-stack developers are more skilled.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

#12

Post by seren »

santiagobasulto wrote: post #8

I don't see a lot of Ruby. What's going on?

Ruby is part of the "Losers" in the Trending Tech. But so is Rust that is also the most Loved. The trend is only the number of upvotes in a topic year to year.

But this is always hard to interpret : does it mean that all basic questions have been asked so there is less activity or is it due to a drop in questions because lack of interest ?

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by josteink »

ruraljuror wrote: post #11
wimagguc wrote: post #4

> for the third year in a row, "full-stack developer" was the most common response [for occupation] Might be a loaded question, but doesn't full-stack mean just "web developer"? From the survey, "Full-stack developers are comfortable coding with 5 to 6 major languages or frameworks (vs. 4 for everyone else)" -- with knowing a bit of Wordpress that's fairly easy to collect: php, sql, html, javascript, css. Done. Or fu…

I don't think so. I think the self distinction is between developers who work exclusively on the front end or back end of websites vs those who do it all. My guess would be the correlation between the self identification has less to do with developer skill than to team/business size. If you are on a team of two or three people, and changes need to be made to the database, JS, and server-side code, you're going to be…

> you are on a team of two or three people, and changes need to be made to the database, JS, and server-side code, you're going to be working across the full stack in a variety of languages.

So basically a web developer then. Right.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by var_explained »

michaelmior wrote: post #2

> JavaScript is the most commonly used programming language on earth. Even Back-End developers are more likely to use it than any other language. I'm not convinced this conclusion applies to the software development community as a whole. s/earth/Stack Overflow/

It's also the most common language on GitHub in terms of both # of repositories and total pushes: http://githut.info/. Why is it hard to believe?

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by SloopJon »

I see QA broken out as an occupation type in several graphs, including 11.6% of women. Overall, however, it's apparently lumped into Other, which would put it at less than the 0.1% who are BI or data warehousing experts, or machine learning developers. Really? No XY QA on SO?

Pretty sure the math doesn't add up, though:

* 5.8% of the 56,033 respondents were women

* 49,525 overall specified an occupation type, so let's assume 88% of the women did as well

* 11.6% of the women specified QA

* .1% overall specified machine learning

That's 56033 * .058 * .116 * .88 ~ 331 women QA alone, compared to 49525 * .001 ~ 49 machine learning developers.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by myth_drannon »

seren wrote: post #12
santiagobasulto wrote: post #8

I don't see a lot of Ruby. What's going on?

Ruby is part of the "Losers" in the Trending Tech. But so is Rust that is also the most Loved. The trend is only the number of upvotes in a topic year to year. But this is always hard to interpret : does it mean that all basic questions have been asked so there is less activity or is it due to a drop in questions because lack of interest ?

Better proxy of a need/popularity for particular tech would be stats of stackoverflow careers tags not the questions
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