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Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by analyst74 »

jorgecurio wrote: post #8

Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? What country in their right mind that enjoys the security and economic prosperity and trade with other d…

> Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure?

I can't believe people actually think this way... organ harvesting by the president?? Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies??

Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by Spooky23 »

jorgecurio wrote: post #8

Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? What country in their right mind that enjoys the security and economic prosperity and trade with other d…

IMO, people are starting to flip against globalization more than in the past, and in places like India as well. In the US, the rise of Trump & Bernie are a good example of people having enough with the mainstream political schtick.

That threatens China's role as factory to the world, and the cracks that are developing drives more repressive behavior.

Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by dsmithatx »

dualogy wrote: post #9
jorgecurio wrote: post #8

Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? What country in their right mind that enjoys the security and economic prosperity and trade with other d…

> Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony Who in their right minds would want any one country to be the global hegemony.. > The world needs United States more than it needs the world. Sure, "the world" needs a 4-decades-long "net-debtor+net-importer" very very badly..

> Sure, "the world" needs a 4-decades-long "net-debtor+net-importer" very very badly..

I find it sad that this is your summary of the United States contributions to the rest of the world. I'm fairly sure there must be a few things you are skipping over here, good and bad.

Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by moreorless »

analyst74 wrote: post #11
jorgecurio wrote: post #8

Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? What country in their right mind that enjoys the security and economic prosperity and trade with other d…

> Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? I can't believe people actually think this way... organ harvesting by the president?? Han Chinese ethn…

Folks see the poorly Photoshop'ed pictures and think they are real. I see the cult members in SF parading around with them.

Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by moreorless »

dsmithatx wrote: post #13
dualogy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony Who in their right minds would want any one country to be the global hegemony.. > The world needs United States more than it needs the world. Sure, "the world" needs a 4-decades-long "net-debtor+net-importer" very very badly..

> Sure, "the world" needs a 4-decades-long "net-debtor+net-importer" very very badly.. I find it sad that this is your summary of the United States contributions to the rest of the world. I'm fairly sure there must be a few things you are skipping over here, good and bad.

I did not read his comment as such. I read it more as "every country has its warts."

Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by Chirael »

Pyxl101 wrote: post #7
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #5

Note to moderators - please expand SCMP to South China Morning Post, it's not clear they have shutdown a newspaper's online presence. Note to Chinese Administration - oh come on guys.

Yes. I briefly confused SCMP with SCTP and thought to myself, "I didn't realize anyone used SCTP. What's the significance?"

I read it quickly and said, "Why on Earth did the Royal Canadian Mounted Police have a presence in mainland China anyway?"

Then I remembered, oh yeah, SCMP was that website I read several times a day, for a couple of weeks straight, when the Snowden story broke.

Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by nitrogen »

analyst74 wrote: post #11
jorgecurio wrote: post #8

Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? What country in their right mind that enjoys the security and economic prosperity and trade with other d…

> Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? I can't believe people actually think this way... organ harvesting by the president?? Han Chinese ethn…

I'm not sure that simply expressing astonishment will change anyone's mind. Are these well-known ideas or something completely new? Can you refute them directly or explain where they come from to someone not familiar with Chinese history and current conspiracy theories?

Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by 0xffff2 »

Spooky23 wrote: post #12
jorgecurio wrote: post #8

Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? What country in their right mind that enjoys the security and economic prosperity and trade with other d…

IMO, people are starting to flip against globalization more than in the past, and in places like India as well. In the US, the rise of Trump & Bernie are a good example of people having enough with the mainstream political schtick. That threatens China's role as factory to the world, and the cracks that are developing drives more repressive behavior.

What does "flip against globalization" actually mean? Unless people are suddenly preferring domestically produced goods over imports in statistically significant numbers, I don't see globalization slowing down any time soon.

Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by kelukelugames »

analyst74 wrote: post #11
jorgecurio wrote: post #8

Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? What country in their right mind that enjoys the security and economic prosperity and trade with other d…

> Who in their right minds would want China to be the global hegemony when they censor free speech, treat people like they are disposable (Falun Gong body organ harvesting by President Zemin), impose Han Chinese ethnocentric ideologies as superior to the world as did Nazi Germany believed their blood made them pure? I can't believe people actually think this way... organ harvesting by the president?? Han Chinese ethn…

A lot of people in the West hate China. Before 9/11, we were really despised and demonized in the US. Probably even worse than Muslims are treated today because at least some us defend them. It's kind of funny the crazy things Americans are willing to believe. Here is the most ridiculous example: a Chinese artist did a series of photographs where he ate a cooked human fetus prop. A white journalist saw the photos, assumed it was real, and wrote an article that made the rounds. Look at those Han barbarians and their baby eating!

Re: SCMP's online presence in mainland China completely wiped out

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Post by Spooky23 »

0xffff2 wrote: post #18
Spooky23 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO, people are starting to flip against globalization more than in the past, and in places like India as well. In the US, the rise of Trump & Bernie are a good example of people having enough with the mainstream political schtick. That threatens China's role as factory to the world, and the cracks that are developing drives more repressive behavior.

What does "flip against globalization" actually mean? Unless people are suddenly preferring domestically produced goods over imports in statistically significant numbers, I don't see globalization slowing down any time soon.

India: http://m.ndtv.com/india-news/fdi-is-first-develop-india-pm-m...

US: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/us-china-trade-reform

Europe: http://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/?fa=62990

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