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Tech Companies, New and Old, Clamor to Entice Cloud Computing Experts

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Re: Tech Companies, New and Old, Clamor to Entice Cloud Computing Experts

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Post by matt_wulfeck »

bitwize wrote: post #10

Well, I missed the cloud boat, so it's no wonder I can't be employed in this market.

Throw away this type of thinking and start renewing your mind. Understand that the cloud is as much about thinking different as is it is about items on a resume or hosts in a datacenter.

Take a project you've done and start figuring out what it would take to do it at 100x the traffic. Now figure out what it would take to make each of the instances stateless. Lastly, how can you make it work through network partitions, latency, and eventual consistency?

These are real problems people in the "cloud" are working with. Just being able to talk about these types of problems excitedly says a lot about where an engineer fits.

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Post by marblar »

accountatwork wrote: post #7

> [Tom] Chavez thinks industry titans like Larry Page, the chief executive of the Alphabet holding company that includes Google, are intentionally driving up salaries. “If I was Larry, I’d do the same thing: throw a few more million at people and cut off everyone else’s oxygen.” Cut off everyone else's oxygen? There are maybe 10 companies that hire in volume and are willing to match top tier offers. The companies tha…

I’ve lost track of this metaphor.

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Post by matt_wulfeck »

tostitos1979 wrote: post #14

I am skeptical about these 1 million dollar paychecks. Take LinkedIn for example. With the recent reduction in their share price, is a mid-level engineer really making 300K to a million? I doubt this.

I know a $300k paycheck at Netflix wouldn't be very unusual for highly skilled cloud engineers.

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Post by toomuchtodo »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #11
bitwize wrote: post #10

Well, I missed the cloud boat, so it's no wonder I can't be employed in this market.

Throw away this type of thinking and start renewing your mind. Understand that the cloud is as much about thinking different as is it is about items on a resume or hosts in a datacenter. Take a project you've done and start figuring out what it would take to do it at 100x the traffic. Now figure out what it would take to make each of the instances stateless. Lastly, how can you make it work through network partitions…

More important than knowing how to do the above is knowing when, and not doing so needlessly.

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#18

Post by bitwize »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #11
bitwize wrote: post #10

Well, I missed the cloud boat, so it's no wonder I can't be employed in this market.

Throw away this type of thinking and start renewing your mind. Understand that the cloud is as much about thinking different as is it is about items on a resume or hosts in a datacenter. Take a project you've done and start figuring out what it would take to do it at 100x the traffic. Now figure out what it would take to make each of the instances stateless. Lastly, how can you make it work through network partitions…

People say things like that right up until it comes time to pull the trigger on a hiring decision. Then it is "you don't have the kind of background we're looking for. Best of luck in your job search."

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Post by jkern »

bitwize wrote: post #10

Well, I missed the cloud boat, so it's no wonder I can't be employed in this market.

This is more about people who have the skills to build the cloud. Just being a user of those systems is much different, and should actually be fairly accessible to most developers. Just go start up a free personal account on AWS and set up a simple website. Voila you're using the cloud!

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Post by marssaxman »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #16
tostitos1979 wrote: post #14

I am skeptical about these 1 million dollar paychecks. Take LinkedIn for example. With the recent reduction in their share price, is a mid-level engineer really making 300K to a million? I doubt this.

I know a $300k paycheck at Netflix wouldn't be very unusual for highly skilled cloud engineers.

Is that some aggregate estimated "total compensation" figure or are they making $300K in real money? That sounds very, very high for what I have seen.
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