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Re: London vs San Francisco – back and forth

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Post by neximo4 »

rib3ye wrote: post #9

He thinks SF is multicultural? By that standard Oakland must be Africa.

This comment isn't very good. For one thing Africa is very very diverse (heck the most genetically diverse place on Earth) and full of different cultures, including western cultures.

Also 'Africa' isn't very closed off to the rest of the world contrary to what you may believe. Things have changed over the past few decades.

If you're going to generalise you might want to visit Africa before comparing her to something else, or mention a city that is a more apt comparison to Oakland.

Re: London vs San Francisco – back and forth

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Post by orf »

neximo4 wrote: post #10
lmm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The City is one small area where hardly anyone actually lives.

How is this different to SF (the 'city' in London isn't actually that big and smaller if you mean 'the square mile'), I assume most people commute to SF in as well? It's not an apt comparison as firms are geographically distributed all over the bay area.

Literally nobody lives there (well, 7000 people do, out of a city of 8.5 million - 0.08%)

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Post by generic_user »

eistrati wrote: post #6

Very interesting read, but also very sad. I think the local authorities in San Francisco are the ones that have to wake up and invest quickly into growing up the infrastructure to accommodate the influx of talent. Otherwise the exodus will hurt everyone and it's already happening (e.g. http://qz.com/627414/tech-workers-are-increasingly-looking-t... )

The housing situation has been in the same state with the same dynamics for over 20 years even before the first bubble started in 2000.

The vast majority will simply never be able to afford a house there. The only way that could possibly be attempted would be to build massive condos everywhere like you see in some Asian cities. That would kill the character of SF. No one wants to have a huge condominium plunked down into there neighbourhood and I can't blame them.

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Post by sehr »

neximo4 wrote: post #11
rib3ye wrote: post #9

He thinks SF is multicultural? By that standard Oakland must be Africa.

This comment isn't very good. For one thing Africa is very very diverse (heck the most genetically diverse place on Earth) and full of different cultures, including western cultures. Also 'Africa' isn't very closed off to the rest of the world contrary to what you may believe. Things have changed over the past few decades. If you're going to generalise you might want to visit Africa before comparing her to something…

They're not saying Africa isn't diverse, they're saying if SF is diverse, then Oakland is REALLY diverse (aka Africa)

Re: London vs San Francisco – back and forth

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Post by neximo4 »

sehr wrote: post #14
neximo4 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment isn't very good. For one thing Africa is very very diverse (heck the most genetically diverse place on Earth) and full of different cultures, including western cultures. Also 'Africa' isn't very closed off to the rest of the world contrary to what you may believe. Things have changed over the past few decades. If you're going to generalise you might want to visit Africa before comparing her to something…

They're not saying Africa isn't diverse, they're saying if SF is diverse, then Oakland is REALLY diverse (aka Africa)

From what I read it was something along the lines of it lacks multiculturalism and is closed off.

Of course that isn't the issue where an entire continent is compared to a small American town...

Edit: Oh I see, of course I have never visited Oakland so I do not understand what is said between the lines. Unless the implication was a small town is as diverse as a continent in some kind of hyperbole.

Re: London vs San Francisco – back and forth

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Post by sehr »

neximo4 wrote: post #17
sehr wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not saying Africa isn't diverse, they're saying if SF is diverse, then Oakland is REALLY diverse (aka Africa)

From what I read it was something along the lines of it lacks multiculturalism and is closed off. Of course that isn't the issue where an entire continent is compared to a small American town... Edit: Oh I see, of course I have never visited Oakland so I do not understand what is said between the lines. Unless the implication was a small town is as diverse as a continent in some kind of hyperbole.

Sorry, clarified my comment a bit more

Re: London vs San Francisco – back and forth

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Post by neximo4 »

dmix wrote: post #3

Regarding the "how did these guys raise so much money?" thing. I'm afraid this is mostly just a sampling bias - one that I've experienced as well. Here's why: the people who forever can't find good talented engineers are usually the bad companies with bad ideas. Getting capital from MBA-educated VC's isn't that challenging or any significant validation of success (although still a notable one). So you are more likely…

Please tell someone this in Australia with a straight face (and London, but things have slightly changed over the past 2 or so year). It is not as easy to get capital as you think..

There is a difference in company culture in the US and the non US tech-spheres. The US isn't conservative at all in its approach to get growth & this is reflected in fund raise sizes.

Re: London vs San Francisco – back and forth

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Post by oldmanjay »

sehr wrote: post #14
neximo4 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment isn't very good. For one thing Africa is very very diverse (heck the most genetically diverse place on Earth) and full of different cultures, including western cultures. Also 'Africa' isn't very closed off to the rest of the world contrary to what you may believe. Things have changed over the past few decades. If you're going to generalise you might want to visit Africa before comparing her to something…

They're not saying Africa isn't diverse, they're saying if SF is diverse, then Oakland is REALLY diverse (aka Africa)

It all depends on what you mean by "diverse" really. In some circles, it seems to be a code word for "not white people" as if white people are all the same.
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