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Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock the iPhone

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Re: Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock the iPhone

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So why is Microsoft fighting us.gov regarding access to data stored in another country? Isn't that, to the layman, just another variety of ribbon-wrapped box. Gates should know that, just like extra-jurisdictional data retrieval, signed malware data retrieval is dangerous, bad business and awful precedent. He must publicly set the record straight for his company's stance to have any credibility.

The reason Microsoft isn't releasing information stored in other countries is because doing so would break the law in those other countries. It would open Microsoft and its employees to prosecution in those countries.

I disagree with Bill on phone security and agree with Apple's stance, but even so it's pretty clear to me that Microsoft has a stronger case and literally has no choice but to deny the US DOJ access to records held abroad.

Re: Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock the iPhone

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I do not understand why Bill Gates would take a contrary position to Silicon Valley / tech community on this issue. Any insight into why he is taking this stance? What I have found even more confusing is why the FBI hasn't asked the NSA for help. The NSA's thousands of skilled hackers simply can't break into an old iPhone?

Because people are allowed to have their own opinion? I don't agree with him, but I certainly don't base my opinion on this matter on the general sentiments in Silicon Valley.

Regardless of the outcome of this case, the best thing that Apple, Google, and everyone else can do is to make sure that it's impossible for them to comply with future versions of the OS.

Re: Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock the iPhone

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>"It is no different than [the question of] should anybody ever have been able to tell the phone company to get information, should anybody be able to get at bank records,” he said. “Let’s say the bank had tied a ribbon round the disk drive and said ‘don’t make me cut this ribbon because you’ll make me cut it many times’." Seriously? It's absolutely different (not to mention his ribbon analogy makes no sense at all).…

> I see all of this more a question of "can Americans actually have anything remain private on a commercial device?".

It's Americans now, but if Apple gives in, investigators from other big markets might pressure Apple to do the same for them. I think that's what's meant with cutting the ribbon many times.

Re: Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock the iPhone

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Can anybody explain why unlocking just this specific phone is bad? Can't we decide on a case-by-case basis? It's not like Apple is being asked to backdoor all Iphones so FBI can read everyone's data. Just this specific one ordered by court. What am I missing?

Apple's position is that if they provide the FBI with the software, then the FBI will effectively be able to use it in every other situation.

And once the software leaks, which will eventually happen, everyone will be able to do it in every situation.

Moreover, every other government will ask for it, and not all governments meet the same moral standards.

Re: Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock the iPhone

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Can anybody explain why unlocking just this specific phone is bad? Can't we decide on a case-by-case basis? It's not like Apple is being asked to backdoor all Iphones so FBI can read everyone's data. Just this specific one ordered by court. What am I missing?

That's the entire point - if Apple designed a backdoor through their security into this specific iPhone, it could be used to backdoor into any iPhone.

Re: Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock the iPhone

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Bill Gates: "Let's say the bank had tied a ribbon round the disk drive and said 'don't make me cut this ribbon because you'll make me cut it many times'"

...Well, that sums up his understanding of the the encryption technology. Then what are we to expect of the general public, when even Bill Gates sees a "ribbon around a disk drive"?

Re: Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock the iPhone

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post #9

So why is Microsoft fighting us.gov regarding access to data stored in another country? Isn't that, to the layman, just another variety of ribbon-wrapped box. Gates should know that, just like extra-jurisdictional data retrieval, signed malware data retrieval is dangerous, bad business and awful precedent. He must publicly set the record straight for his company's stance to have any credibility.

Bill Gates isn't in charge at Microsoft. Sure, he's still on the board, but he's not even the chairman anymore. It's possible that he disagrees with Microsoft fighting the government regarding access to data stored overseas, but is staying silent because he doesn't want to be seen as badmouthing current management.

Re: Bill Gates Says Apple Should Unlock the iPhone

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Can anybody explain why unlocking just this specific phone is bad? Can't we decide on a case-by-case basis? It's not like Apple is being asked to backdoor all Iphones so FBI can read everyone's data. Just this specific one ordered by court. What am I missing?

In order to do so, Apple has to make an update that loosens the restrictions the current version has.

Once that update exists, it can be installed on any device because it has been signed by Apple.

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