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Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by EC1 »

pmarsh wrote: post #4
lintiness wrote: post #2

i have a 3 yo daughter and a 1.5 yo son. this story is terrifying.

I find it amazing at the untold strength in parents like these. Just ordinary folks who somehow find a way to keep on trying and pushing and doing their best when faced with unimaginable challenges. They fall and get up and keep going. Makes so many other problems many of us have to face really seem more like "problems".

This perspective is romanticizing their hardships. The reality is probably that they have no way out and they are stuck in a cycle.

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by Ygg2 »

pmarsh wrote: post #4
lintiness wrote: post #2

i have a 3 yo daughter and a 1.5 yo son. this story is terrifying.

I find it amazing at the untold strength in parents like these. Just ordinary folks who somehow find a way to keep on trying and pushing and doing their best when faced with unimaginable challenges. They fall and get up and keep going. Makes so many other problems many of us have to face really seem more like "problems".

Sadly, story doesn't end here. Now the brother is autistic, possibly schizophrenic and the parents are divorced.

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by [deleted] »

pmarsh wrote: post #4
lintiness wrote: post #2

i have a 3 yo daughter and a 1.5 yo son. this story is terrifying.

I find it amazing at the untold strength in parents like these. Just ordinary folks who somehow find a way to keep on trying and pushing and doing their best when faced with unimaginable challenges. They fall and get up and keep going. Makes so many other problems many of us have to face really seem more like "problems".

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Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by Ygg2 »

jd3 wrote: post #10
andrewguenther wrote: post #7

Maybe note that this article is from 2012? Since then, Bodhi (the brother) has been diagnosed autistic and they suspect he is also a paranoid schizophrenic, but he just doesn't verbalize like Jani does. Michael (the dad) had an affair and the parents are now divorced. It is a truly tragic story. There is a well-written post from Michael which I can't seem to find where he gives advice to other parents raising childre…

I remember reading this article a few years ago. I never thought the story could get worse. Tragic.

Stuff are never that bad they can't get any worse.

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by ImTalking »

whitegrape wrote: post #9

Title needs (2012), I'd love to read a more recent followup if anyone knows about one. My brother didn't show signs of his schizophrenia until his teens (it may have been triggered/hastened by drug use, I haven't kept up with the literature around that theory), it took over 10 years for him to get to a stable place with my mom's great efforts. The end of the article is encouraging, modern medications and ratios have…

I know nothing of your circumstances, but many schizophrenics gravitate to drugs to alleviate their symptoms. I very much like your sentence. "Keep the love and support going, and don't discount her not being a good sister in the end."

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by cfcef »

fatlasp wrote: post #8
andrewguenther wrote: post #7

Maybe note that this article is from 2012? Since then, Bodhi (the brother) has been diagnosed autistic and they suspect he is also a paranoid schizophrenic, but he just doesn't verbalize like Jani does. Michael (the dad) had an affair and the parents are now divorced. It is a truly tragic story. There is a well-written post from Michael which I can't seem to find where he gives advice to other parents raising childre…

I stumbled across a post ending in your quote. Looks like somebody started a foundation which turned up on a search of Michael Schofield's name; you might be thinking of this post: http://janifoundation.org/blog/

http://janifoundation.org/the-fallen/

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by ryan-allen »

andrewguenther wrote: post #7

Maybe note that this article is from 2012? Since then, Bodhi (the brother) has been diagnosed autistic and they suspect he is also a paranoid schizophrenic, but he just doesn't verbalize like Jani does. Michael (the dad) had an affair and the parents are now divorced. It is a truly tragic story. There is a well-written post from Michael which I can't seem to find where he gives advice to other parents raising childre…

I saw a documentary on her (can't remember which), and the family rented two apartments in a complex, because she was violent with her younger brother.

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by hitekker »

cfcef wrote: post #16
fatlasp wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stumbled across a post ending in your quote. Looks like somebody started a foundation which turned up on a search of Michael Schofield's name; you might be thinking of this post: http://janifoundation.org/blog/

http://janifoundation.org/the-fallen/

This is indeed where the quote of the parent parent comment can be found.

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by jacquesm »

Ygg2 wrote: post #14
jd3 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember reading this article a few years ago. I never thought the story could get worse. Tragic.

Stuff are never that bad they can't get any worse.

Polish proverb: "I thought life was as hard and as bad as it could ever get, then I heard knocking from below".

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by kough »

It's stories like this that make me wish as hard as I do for better pre-birth screening for mental disorders, including autism, and continued support of abortion. It's an unbearable burden - to the parents, society, but most of all to the children themselves, who are utterly blameless and must suffer the rest of their lives as a result. I try to debate rationally and understand that other people have their own opinions but I feel sick arguing with people about this. My family has had it easier than many, certainly nowhere as bad as the family in this story, and I love my brother, but if we could choose between him existing and him not existing the latter is clearly better for all involved, including him.
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