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Everyone’s offended these days

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Re: Everyone’s offended these days

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Are people actually deeply offended by things they read on the interest? Or are people looking for reasons to be "offended"? Because the latter seems far more often the case.

Did you actually read the article? Or did you just look at the title and see a "witty quip" opportunity? Because the latter seems far more likely given your comment seems unrelated to the article's content.

Re: Everyone’s offended these days

#13
Well, the author's suggestion that everything is fine, trolls can be ignored and Fry is somehow hypocritical with being fed up with trolls and offended people is really something that I cannot agree with. Twitter, by its very own format, encourages the worst in the human behaviour. Those who shout loudest get the most visibility, and it has the very real potential to destroy lives and encourage mob justice which is just the worst. Remember this girl who tweeted a joke that she hope's she doesn't get HIV when going to Africa, and was absolutely DESTROYED by twitter, sent death threats and had her personal information published on the internet? This is what Fry meant when he said that the pond is full of scum.

Re: Everyone’s offended these days

#14
There's a bit of nuance needed re: the paragraphs near the start. Offended people tend to expect others to cater to them. Stephen doesn't; he's simply explaining why people are wrong: for treating "I'm offended" as something that should be pandered to. That isn't the same.

The author seems to be suggesting that because everyone thinks their behavior is universal and objective, one cannot justifiably make this claim, and that every objective thrust must necessarily have emotional underpinnings. Maybe; but Fry never tries to invalidate others' feelings. Those offended tend to.

Re: Everyone’s offended these days

#15

Are people actually deeply offended by things they read on the interest? Or are people looking for reasons to be "offended"? Because the latter seems far more often the case.

How would you ever know?

You can judge actions, moderate actions, reward actions... But feelings are harder to identify.

Which was sorta the point of this article, I guess. There's a good chance that everyone is offended... So, what are we gonna do about that? If everyone is offended - and if we stop trying to sort out who has a "right" to be and who doesn't - then these notions that some bad behavior is justified kinda start looking silly: if we're gonna welcome everyone into the proverbial pool, then we can't let anyone get away with abuse, including the system itself.

Re: Everyone’s offended these days

#16
The tsunami analogy was quite eye-opening for me. It puts things into perspective. It's easy to look at an individual drop and say: "this is nothing!"

Anyhow, it's a shame that it looks like only half the comments here are from people who read the article instead of just jumping to conclusions.

Re: Everyone’s offended these days

#17

Are people actually deeply offended by things they read on the interest? Or are people looking for reasons to be "offended"? Because the latter seems far more often the case.

Did you actually read the article? Or did you just look at the title and see a "witty quip" opportunity? Because the latter seems far more likely given your comment seems unrelated to the article's content.

No, I didn't read it. From a quick skim, the article doesn't look worth reading, given its length. Are we not allowed to discuss the title of submissions, only the body of text?

Re: Everyone’s offended these days

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post #15

Are people actually deeply offended by things they read on the interest? Or are people looking for reasons to be "offended"? Because the latter seems far more often the case.

How would you ever know? You can judge actions, moderate actions, reward actions... But feelings are harder to identify. Which was sorta the point of this article, I guess. There's a good chance that everyone is offended... So, what are we gonna do about that? If everyone is offended - and if we stop trying to sort out who has a "right" to be and who doesn't - then these notions that some bad behavior is justified ki…

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Re: Everyone’s offended these days

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post #15

Are people actually deeply offended by things they read on the interest? Or are people looking for reasons to be "offended"? Because the latter seems far more often the case.

How would you ever know? You can judge actions, moderate actions, reward actions... But feelings are harder to identify. Which was sorta the point of this article, I guess. There's a good chance that everyone is offended... So, what are we gonna do about that? If everyone is offended - and if we stop trying to sort out who has a "right" to be and who doesn't - then these notions that some bad behavior is justified ki…

Yes, I agree that other people's feelings are hard to know. (Possibly unknowable.) I just can't recall ever in my life having been offended, so I'm skeptical.

Re: Everyone’s offended these days

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post #16

The tsunami analogy was quite eye-opening for me. It puts things into perspective. It's easy to look at an individual drop and say: "this is nothing!" Anyhow, it's a shame that it looks like only half the comments here are from people who read the article instead of just jumping to conclusions.

Perhaps. On the other hand it's not so easy to avoid a tsunami by simply putting down your phone and going for a nice stroll.
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