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Armok Invaders – a game built inside Dwarf Fortress

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Re: Armok Invaders – a game built inside Dwarf Fortress

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Post by wmil »

pmarreck wrote: post #10
wmil wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The size difference is trivial so there's no real benefit to .7z files. However it's a non standard format so I have to hunt around for what the CLI tool is called, then install it, the look up the options... Sure that's not a huge amount of work, but it just seems preposterous. Like using some 'gopher 2.0' protocol instead of http.

Windows has a GUI client. OS X and Linux have p7zip. And package managers. It's not rocket science.

p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file. And I don't have to download anything to open a .zip or .tgz.

Compressing a directory is a solved problem with standard solutions. You really should have a reason to push something like 7zip.

Re: Armok Invaders – a game built inside Dwarf Fortress

#12

Post by Natsu »

wmil wrote: post #8
RexM wrote: post #5

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Why are you against the format?

The size difference is trivial so there's no real benefit to .7z files. However it's a non standard format so I have to hunt around for what the CLI tool is called, then install it, the look up the options... Sure that's not a huge amount of work, but it just seems preposterous. Like using some 'gopher 2.0' protocol instead of http.

Linux: http://linux.die.net/man/1/7z Windows: http://www.7-zip.org/ Mac: http://7zx.en.softonic.com/mac

Re: Armok Invaders – a game built inside Dwarf Fortress

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Post by deathanatos »

Natsu wrote: post #12
wmil wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The size difference is trivial so there's no real benefit to .7z files. However it's a non standard format so I have to hunt around for what the CLI tool is called, then install it, the look up the options... Sure that's not a huge amount of work, but it just seems preposterous. Like using some 'gopher 2.0' protocol instead of http.

Linux: http://linux.die.net/man/1/7z Windows: http://www.7-zip.org/ Mac: http://7zx.en.softonic.com/mac

Heck, if you're using MATE/GNOME on Linux, Engrampa/File roller or whatever they call it opens this and many other formats just fine. I click the link, and a moment later click the downloaded file in Chromium, and it opens right up. From there I can drag and drop into a directory/folder in Caja/Nautilus. Painless.

Re: Armok Invaders – a game built inside Dwarf Fortress

#14

Post by simoncion »

wmil wrote: post #11
pmarreck wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has a GUI client. OS X and Linux have p7zip. And package managers. It's not rocket science.

p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file. And I don't have to download anything to open a .zip or .tgz. Compressing a directory is a solved problem with standard solutions. You really should have a reason to push something like 7zip.

> p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file.

If you're running KDE (and I think GNOME), the built-in GUI de-compressors handle 7-zip just fine.

> Compressing a directory is a solved problem with standard solutions.

shrug 7-Zip compresses at least as well as RAR, and doesn't have a file format that permits feeding executable bytecode to a probably-not-very-well-examined bytecode interpreter. [0]

[0] True story! http://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2012/09/fun-with-constrained-progr...

Re: Armok Invaders – a game built inside Dwarf Fortress

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Post by DanBC »

wmil wrote: post #11
pmarreck wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has a GUI client. OS X and Linux have p7zip. And package managers. It's not rocket science.

p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file. And I don't have to download anything to open a .zip or .tgz. Compressing a directory is a solved problem with standard solutions. You really should have a reason to push something like 7zip.

>And I don't have to download anything to open a [...] .tgz.

You do on some OSs.

http://superuser.com/questions/234649/how-to-extract-a-tar-f...

Re: Armok Invaders – a game built inside Dwarf Fortress

#16

Post by pmarreck »

wmil wrote: post #11
pmarreck wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has a GUI client. OS X and Linux have p7zip. And package managers. It's not rocket science.

p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file. And I don't have to download anything to open a .zip or .tgz. Compressing a directory is a solved problem with standard solutions. You really should have a reason to push something like 7zip.

> p7zip is not anyone's first guess the first time they see a .7z file

I know, googling "7zip OS X" and seeing that the first link ends up directing you to p7zip, is incredibly hard.

> You really should have a reason to push something like 7zip

How about, it has the best compression available from an open-source compressor. RAR is not open-source.

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