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Netflix Shuts Down Final Bits of Own Data Center Infrastructure

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Re: Netflix Shuts Down Final Bits of Own Data Center Infrastructure

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Post by Scaevolus »

late2part wrote: post #7
Scaevolus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AWS might make more money from Netflix than they do from Amazon Prime Video.

false. http://www.business-management-degree.net/features/amazon-vs...

That infographic isn't very clear. It's hard to separate the impact of Prime Video from Prime and from normal Amazon operations.

How many people buy Amazon Prime for the video streaming? What percentage of the $800M Prime revenue is attributable to the video service?

I'd wager less than 10%. Does Netflix spend more than $80M a year on AWS?

The numbers needed to answer the question aren't publicly available. It's a bunch of guesswork.

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Post by 2trill2spill »

iofj wrote: post #2

Keep in mind that all but the business rules actually run in their own custom CDN nodes around the world, not in these cloud setups.

I thought everything but the video streaming was done on AWS. Like the Website, the recommendation engine, video encoding, etc, So I think thats a lot more then business rules. The FreeBSD CDN just serves the video.[1]

The video below is from AsiaBSDCon 2014. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sZZN8Szh14

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Post by edko »

danhou wrote: post #4

Is it just me, or is it a massive risk to have your entire infrastructure hosted by a company who is also one of your chief competitors?

I would also feel very uneasy, but I think it is because of my national origin. I truly find these things of American capitalism very admirable. I am sure it will work for them without a problem. Just look at Samsung and Apple: killing each other in court over patents, without affecting their trade of electronic components.

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Post by diab0lic »

danhou wrote: post #4

Is it just me, or is it a massive risk to have your entire infrastructure hosted by a company who is also one of your chief competitors?

You'd be surprised at what a good job the individual pieces of Amazon's empire do at operating as individual units as far as competition is concerned. It would be VERY bad business to "screw" an AWS customer because they competed with some other part of the organization as a whole. Given that Amazon operates in so many spaces and could potentially expand to any space, this behavior would effectively make AWS unappealing for a significant portion of customers.

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Post by cstejerean »

diab0lic wrote: post #17
danhou wrote: post #4

Is it just me, or is it a massive risk to have your entire infrastructure hosted by a company who is also one of your chief competitors?

You'd be surprised at what a good job the individual pieces of Amazon's empire do at operating as individual units as far as competition is concerned. It would be VERY bad business to "screw" an AWS customer because they competed with some other part of the organization as a whole. Given that Amazon operates in so many spaces and could potentially expand to any space, this behavior would effectively make AWS unappeal…

I'd like to believe this, but then I can't buy an Apple TV through Amazon because of some petty dispute over Prime Video (which I really don't care about). So if Amazon the store can pull products to try to protect prime video, then how can I be sure that other units won't?

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Post by mattdeboard »

Is Netflix at the top end of some curve? My understanding of moving from cloud -> datacenter is, you know, there is some line where it's cheaper to just lease your hardware than pay for cloud infrastructure. At that size you tend to have DBAs, dedicated infrastructure people, etc., to make scaling up go.

But now has Netflix come through that line where the cost savings is outweighed by the uptime/availability etc.?

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Post by phamilton »

mattdeboard wrote: post #19

Is Netflix at the top end of some curve? My understanding of moving from cloud -> datacenter is, you know, there is some line where it's cheaper to just lease your hardware than pay for cloud infrastructure. At that size you tend to have DBAs, dedicated infrastructure people, etc., to make scaling up go. But now has Netflix come through that line where the cost savings is outweighed by the uptime/availability etc.?

Netflix doesn't pay what you or I would pay. Netflix is at a point in their AWS usage where Amazon calls them to help track down AWS bugs.
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