To be fair, see: https://libreboot.org/faq/#intel
And they don't list any Nvidia hardware at all here, as far as I can tell: https://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/index.html So I guess their solution is to hoard 2013-vintage hardware for the rest of all time?
Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
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Re: Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
#12tl;dr: It's not just AMD, it's anything AMD after 2013 and anything Intel after 2009. So essentially all modern x86 hardware.
Re: Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
#13tl;dr: It's not just AMD, it's anything AMD after 2013 and anything Intel after 2009. So essentially all modern x86 hardware.
I wonder if you get better performance per watt on 2012 AMD chips or 2008 Intel chips
Re: Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
#14tl;dr: It's not just AMD, it's anything AMD after 2013 and anything Intel after 2009. So essentially all modern x86 hardware.
Re: Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was wondering this myself. I was wondering why they were focusing so much on AMD when all AMD did was copy Intel's horrible idea. It seems kind of pointless to continue the Libreboot project if they're not going to work on any modern hardware for the foreseeable future. Their recommended systems are all old and out of production. Fastest recommended laptop seems to be roughly a Core2Duo at 2.0Ghz.
They don't even do microcode updates, which is ridiculous when you are running non-free microcode to boot.
Re: Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder if you get better performance per watt on 2012 AMD chips or 2008 Intel chips
Most likely not. Perf/watt was one of the aspects both Intel and AMD were focusing on since then.
Re: Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
#17To be fair, see: https://libreboot.org/faq/#intel
I was wondering this myself. I was wondering why they were focusing so much on AMD when all AMD did was copy Intel's horrible idea. It seems kind of pointless to continue the Libreboot project if they're not going to work on any modern hardware for the foreseeable future. Their recommended systems are all old and out of production. Fastest recommended laptop seems to be roughly a Core2Duo at 2.0Ghz.
Re: Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
#18tl;dr: It's not just AMD, it's anything AMD after 2013 and anything Intel after 2009. So essentially all modern x86 hardware.
And ARM
https://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/c201.html
* Yes, that is the very same RK3288 that has an embarrassing calendar bug discussed here a month ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10768140
Re: Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was wondering this myself. I was wondering why they were focusing so much on AMD when all AMD did was copy Intel's horrible idea. It seems kind of pointless to continue the Libreboot project if they're not going to work on any modern hardware for the foreseeable future. Their recommended systems are all old and out of production. Fastest recommended laptop seems to be roughly a Core2Duo at 2.0Ghz.
They don't even do microcode updates, which is ridiculous when you are running non-free microcode to boot.
Re: Why is the latest AMD hardware unsupported in libreboot?
#20ARM is probably the closest open chip platform out there, but even that is not Free in the FSF sense or $ sense. It seems that the project is going to forgo user-base for principles, and then most likely no longer be relevant.
It's great to try and fight for and defend your principles, but if that means that you no longer have a user base on which to stand, then the fight will be of little value. I'd love to be wrong about this, but I can't logically see another way that this will play out.