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Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by pajtai »

criddell wrote: post #8

Blocking ads motivates some people but many others are motivated by the desire to not be tracked. When I read a paper magazine, nobody knows what pages I flip through, what ads I read, no profile is being built, etc... Why can't ads on the internet be as dumb? For the past 20 years, I've been hearing how ads will be less annoying once advertisers can target more effectively. I think the exact opposite has happened. L…

This is true. But ads are more targeted not to make it less annoying for you, but because people who sell stuff think they'll get a higher conversion rate the more targeted they get.... and that's hard to argue with.

But I do think legislation to make you be tracked less would be awesome, but it'd be fighting money.

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by bratsche »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #7

You're paying the site hosting the ad, at least indirectly. They get a portion of your money. If this is popular, it will probably increase ad revenue, so more sites are likely to want to show Google ads, which means people not paying into this scheme will see even more ads as a result.

I don't really get how it would cause that to happen.

Right now sites are being paid by advertisers. Under this scheme they're being paid by users. It doesn't say they're being paid more (or less), so I don't see why this would have any effect on whether sites use ads or not.

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by graeham »

joshavant wrote: post #6

By these numbers, does this mean Google makes somewhere on the order of $20/month/person from AdSense?

There was a few articles on value per user a few years ago, can't recall anything recently. Probably a bit less for an average user, but someone driven enough to opt out is probably more valuable than an average user

http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeanders/2013/11/07/a-twitte...

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by sandworm101 »

Pay Google? Pay a billion-dollar company to not do something?

So, going forward, it will be in Google's interest to make ads ever more annoying and creepy so that people are pushed into paying to end the pain. That is not a world in which I want to live.

How about this: Google pays me for watching their annoying ads. Given that I have the upper hand on the tech front (adblockers) and am the one buying the products, shouldn't I be the one being paid?

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by chippy »

Let's consider this for our non techy friends and family.

Can we expect our mothers to pay Google a monthy fee to view less adverts on webpages on the Internet? How will their ideas about what the internet-as-utility mean to them change? Will they consider the money they pay to their ISP as already covering this? Would not paying imply that they should be happy to see advertising? How would this model apply to other paid services? Should people pay more to their taxis to be able to shut off the in cab monitors showing ads? Should a monthly additional payment be made to their email client to stop spam? Would they consider it okay to not get advertisements sent to their postal mail by their utility companies if they paid some more?

Would we see a Facebook Premium account where for 10 dollars a month no ads are shown, or a Twitter premium account where no sponsored tweets are delivered?

Now think about this from the point of view of a company or marketeer. Wouldn't those consumers who could afford to pay extra to not see ads be worth more to you? Would they imply that they had more purchasing power?

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by cm2187 »

pajtai wrote: post #11
criddell wrote: post #8

Blocking ads motivates some people but many others are motivated by the desire to not be tracked. When I read a paper magazine, nobody knows what pages I flip through, what ads I read, no profile is being built, etc... Why can't ads on the internet be as dumb? For the past 20 years, I've been hearing how ads will be less annoying once advertisers can target more effectively. I think the exact opposite has happened. L…

This is true. But ads are more targeted not to make it less annoying for you, but because people who sell stuff think they'll get a higher conversion rate the more targeted they get.... and that's hard to argue with. But I do think legislation to make you be tracked less would be awesome, but it'd be fighting money.

You would have to rely on ad websites to respect laws and regulations and for legislations to be consistent in every country. Ain't going to happen. I'd rather keep blocking ads.

Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads

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Post by arihant »

It's unfortunate that all the pricing schemes are non-deterministic. If they can't know for sure, they should just have an additional pay-as-you-go style plan with rough estimates. Maybe let people decide how much maximum they are willing to pay each month. It actually sounds like that until one hits the pricing page.

It looks like as an average case, looking to spend $25 or above should get one 100% AdSense free Internet. But that option isn't there. Given how much value a typical power user gains from Google and the content websites combined, $25 a month is a bargain.

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