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A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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Although ND has crop dusters which will be an interesting conflict.

How often do crop dusters usually fly? I feel like that's a problem that could be solved by a bit of communication.

Over a given field, once or twice per year at most. Most farms probably do not use aircraft for spraying at all. They use ground equipment: tractors pulling sprayers. Granted that my experience is a different part of the world, but crop dusters are really rather rare.

Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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It's seasonal, but they fly at altitudes a lot of drones fly at.

Yeah, they'd definitely be at the same altitudes. I moreso meant do crop dusters fly daily, weekly, etc. Probably pretty crop dependent.

As the jobs are contracted, so daily in season, chaotically.

Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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I think a serious benefit ND has, aside from the established reputation and money put in is space . I can't really think of somewhere in Silicon Valley (or near by) that has the lack of population, lack of airspace traffic, and lack of local / state / federal ordinances that would allow this degree of freedom. Silicon Valley has it's strengths, but it can't be ground zero for everything. Honestly, if the NUMI plant w…

Nevada is closer and seems to have most of North Dakota's benefits?

I also wonder if Nevada's climate would make it a better choice too. The Dakotas have some of the most extreme weather in the US - hot summers, frigid winters, severe thunderstorms, and wind - there were a lot of windy days when I lived in North Dakota. Would days with subzero high temps and 30 MPH sustained winds be a useful environment for drones?

One thing that really seemed to help the Silicon Valley get started was how away it was from everything - particularly the establishment on the east coast. I do wonder if the next big thing will be started somewhere that is similarly away from Silicon Valley - somewhere no one would expect, like North Dakota.

Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often do crop dusters usually fly? I feel like that's a problem that could be solved by a bit of communication.

Over a given field, once or twice per year at most. Most farms probably do not use aircraft for spraying at all. They use ground equipment: tractors pulling sprayers. Granted that my experience is a different part of the world, but crop dusters are really rather rare.

Not in ND, they are fairly common. [edit: I'm in the NE to N central]

Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often do crop dusters usually fly? I feel like that's a problem that could be solved by a bit of communication.

Over a given field, once or twice per year at most. Most farms probably do not use aircraft for spraying at all. They use ground equipment: tractors pulling sprayers. Granted that my experience is a different part of the world, but crop dusters are really rather rare.

I lived in the Dakotas for 20 years and crop dusters were present, but not terribly common. Ground spraying equipment was way more common.

As an aside, the City of Fargo uses crop dusters to spray for mosquitoes in the summer - which is either super cool or super annoying, depending on your opinion of airplanes :)

Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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I think a serious benefit ND has, aside from the established reputation and money put in is space . I can't really think of somewhere in Silicon Valley (or near by) that has the lack of population, lack of airspace traffic, and lack of local / state / federal ordinances that would allow this degree of freedom. Silicon Valley has it's strengths, but it can't be ground zero for everything. Honestly, if the NUMI plant w…

Nevada is closer and seems to have most of North Dakota's benefits? I also wonder if Nevada's climate would make it a better choice too. The Dakotas have some of the most extreme weather in the US - hot summers, frigid winters, severe thunderstorms, and wind - there were a lot of windy days when I lived in North Dakota. Would days with subzero high temps and 30 MPH sustained winds be a useful environment for drones?…

Isn't a lot of the em[ptyt open space in NV under BLM control, and therefore off limits to "drones"?

(Also, good luck getting your experimental UAV back when it mysteriously goes down over Area 51...)

Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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Nevada is closer and seems to have most of North Dakota's benefits? I also wonder if Nevada's climate would make it a better choice too. The Dakotas have some of the most extreme weather in the US - hot summers, frigid winters, severe thunderstorms, and wind - there were a lot of windy days when I lived in North Dakota. Would days with subzero high temps and 30 MPH sustained winds be a useful environment for drones?…

Isn't a lot of the em[ptyt open space in NV under BLM control, and therefore off limits to "drones"? (Also, good luck getting your experimental UAV back when it mysteriously goes down over Area 51...)

I'm pretty sure BLM means open for drones... It's national parks that are off limits. BLM is the "everything else" of US land and in general has the most relaxed rules. Like, you can land a plane anywhere on a dry BLM lakebed, for one.

Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How often do crop dusters usually fly? I feel like that's a problem that could be solved by a bit of communication.

It's seasonal, but they fly at altitudes a lot of drones fly at.

As someone who used to travel the back rural roads of North Dakota, I can confirm this. I've been buzzed a time or two from crazy crop dusting pilots.

It scares the bejesus out of you if you're not ready for it.

Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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post #3

I think a serious benefit ND has, aside from the established reputation and money put in is space . I can't really think of somewhere in Silicon Valley (or near by) that has the lack of population, lack of airspace traffic, and lack of local / state / federal ordinances that would allow this degree of freedom. Silicon Valley has it's strengths, but it can't be ground zero for everything. Honestly, if the NUMI plant w…

Nevada is closer and seems to have most of North Dakota's benefits? I also wonder if Nevada's climate would make it a better choice too. The Dakotas have some of the most extreme weather in the US - hot summers, frigid winters, severe thunderstorms, and wind - there were a lot of windy days when I lived in North Dakota. Would days with subzero high temps and 30 MPH sustained winds be a useful environment for drones?…

One could argue that extreme climate swings might make for an _ideal_ development environment. Environmental extremes would better model real-world conditions.

Re: A Silicon Valley for Drones, in North Dakota

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nevada is closer and seems to have most of North Dakota's benefits? I also wonder if Nevada's climate would make it a better choice too. The Dakotas have some of the most extreme weather in the US - hot summers, frigid winters, severe thunderstorms, and wind - there were a lot of windy days when I lived in North Dakota. Would days with subzero high temps and 30 MPH sustained winds be a useful environment for drones?…

One could argue that extreme climate swings might make for an _ideal_ development environment. Environmental extremes would better model real-world conditions.

Yeah, but you don't want that during prototype times. You'd want to test that under controlled times when you feel you have a better product.
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