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Re: Ask YC: Who's pushing their data to 'the cloud'

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Post by bootload » Sat, Feb 02, 2008, 3:33 AM UTC

gojomo wrote: post #10

bootload wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are dead right. I was wrong. I meant "ISO 8601". Late night post and I should have checked ~ http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3339.txt

From this RFC I learned that: Standard time in the Netherlands was exactly 19 minutes and 32.13 seconds ahead of UTC by law from 1909-05-01 through 1937-06-30. Those wacky Dutch!

"... From this RFC I learned that: ..."

The bit I use is a bastardisation of "1985-04-12T23:20:50.52Z". A shorter version as a string, say "20070202T1422" stripping out the hyphens, colons and Zulu.

Re: Ask YC: Who's pushing their data to 'the cloud'

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Post by iseff » Sat, Feb 02, 2008, 4:14 AM UTC

As one of the developers/founders of Openomy (http://www.openomy.com), I'm keenly interested in this.

Our goal is to provide a place where people can store and access all their online files. We want to be the Online File System. We're heading to the "cloud" already and it's becoming increasingly difficult for us to manage our own files. My photos are locked in Flickr, my docs in Zoho, etc.

We want to break down the "data silos" and provide a single interface to all your "cloud storage" as well as provide a single API for developers to code against to access user's data in meaningful and interesting ways.

We're taking a multi-pronged approach to this. One prong (currently launched) is to allow you to upload your files through our API or our web interface and we'll store it (using Amazon's S3 for reliability and scalability). You can access the files and their metadata through the UI or through the API. You can tag them, share them, make them public, etc.

Our next step is to provide many backing-stores. That is, import your files from Flickr/Zoho, etc. We'll keep things sync'd up, so that Openomy becomes your Online File System; storing the metadata of everything you do online. Then, the UI becomes the equivalent of Windows Explorer or Finder, and the API becomes the equivalent of the single file system API provided to you as a desktop developer.

We think it's going to be, at the very least, extremely fun to build. :)

Re: Ask YC: Who's pushing their data to 'the cloud'

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Post by bayareaguy » Sat, Feb 02, 2008, 6:47 AM UTC

bootload wrote: post #11

gojomo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From this RFC I learned that: Standard time in the Netherlands was exactly 19 minutes and 32.13 seconds ahead of UTC by law from 1909-05-01 through 1937-06-30. Those wacky Dutch!

"... From this RFC I learned that: ..." The bit I use is a bastardisation of "1985-04-12T23:20:50.52Z" . A shorter version as a string, say "20070202T1422" stripping out the hyphens, colons and Zulu.

Actually I don't believe "20070202T1422" is a legal 8601 timestamp. My read of the partial ABNF below requires you to designate the time zone with a "Z" or a specific offset (e.g. +08:00).

   time-secfrac    = "." 1*DIGIT
   time-numoffset  = ("+" / "-") time-hour ":" time-minute
   time-offset     = "Z" / time-numoffset

   partial-time    = time-hour ":" time-minute ":" time-second
                     [time-secfrac]
   full-date       = date-fullyear "-" date-month "-" date-mday
   full-time       = partial-time time-offset

   date-time       = full-date "T" full-time

If your data is going to stick around a while (and possibly loaded into some other system in the future) you should be sure to encode the timezone.

Re: Ask YC: Who's pushing their data to 'the cloud'

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Post by ubudesign » Sat, Feb 02, 2008, 7:10 AM UTC

I use our own service at http://www.i2drive.com not only to store files but also to edit files on the remote server. it uses webdav for back-end which lets you map a drive from windows or mount from Mac and Linux.

Re: Ask YC: Who's pushing their data to 'the cloud'

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Post by bootload » Sat, Feb 02, 2008, 11:21 AM UTC

bayareaguy wrote: post #13

bootload wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"... From this RFC I learned that: ..." The bit I use is a bastardisation of "1985-04-12T23:20:50.52Z" . A shorter version as a string, say "20070202T1422" stripping out the hyphens, colons and Zulu.

Actually I don't believe "20070202T1422" is a legal 8601 timestamp. My read of the partial ABNF below requires you to designate the time zone with a "Z" or a specific offset (e.g. +08:00). time-secfrac = "." 1*DIGIT time-numoffset = ("+" / "-") time-hour ":" time-minute time-offset = "Z" / time-numoffset partial-time = time-hour ":" time-minute ":" time-second [time-secfrac] full-date = date-fullyear "-" date-month "…

"... 20070202T1422 is a legal 8601 timestamp. ..."

20070202T1422 - but close enough for me in 1 timezone and limited space for display. I have a double use as both a (8601 hack) and as a human readable title. Adding extra "-" and "Z" makes it harder to read and the accuracy for seconds is simply not required. Trade-offs I'm willing to make.

Re: Ask YC: Who's pushing their data to 'the cloud'

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Post by altano » Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 6:16 AM UTC

tx wrote: post #5

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #4

There are some products that do P2P+Server data sharing. I'm thinking Groove especially, but I'm sure there are more. This allows me to put my data "out there" among all the computers/friends that I share my space with, without publishing the information for the whole world to see. So I have ease-of-access, backups, online/offline access, etc without having to go public. Plus it tightly integrates with my operating s…

Microsoft is so dead... I was intrigued by your post and went ahead to research Groove a bit more, but their site is full of "marketing messages" and I ran out of patience looking for an answer for "WHAT DOES GROOVE DO?", therefore your post remains the only information I got about this service.

It's basically secure, p2p collaboration. You have spaces with tools that serve different functions, such as discussion, file-sharing, instant messaging, etc. You invite people to a space and collaborate using the tools.