Free speech, European style.
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Facebook, Google, Twitter agree to delete hate speech in 24 hours: Germany
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#12Free speech, European style.
Free speech, the correct way. In my opinion, of course. (The following is not so much directed at you; I don't know you, after all. It's just that I need to rant, as always when Americans lecture us on free speech. "You" is not the personal you, but "you Americans on web forums") Don't mistake your version of free speech for a canonical implementation. Keep your hate speech and school shootings, be proud of it, and b…
So, how does this generation of Americans inherit their now dead politicians from years ago?
You don't get to come back after seventy-five years
and ask us to please be nicer to Nazis. And Scientology.
And whatnot.
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#13The title of this article needs to be changed. There is a world of difference between "anti-immigrant comments" and hate speech that incites violence (which is what's really being discussed here.) @dang
Yes, why was the title changed to "anti-immigrant" rather than the more accurate "hate speech" that the original article uses?
Facebook previously would allow hate speech(like calling for violence), but take down comments by people talking about sex.
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#14I don't understand how deleting an online record of hate speech and threats of violence is going to do anything to help solve any problems. It will make the net look prettier, but the people who would post such things will still be there thinking and feeling exactly as they do now.
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#15I don't understand how deleting an online record of hate speech and threats of violence is going to do anything to help solve any problems. It will make the net look prettier, but the people who would post such things will still be there thinking and feeling exactly as they do now.
Post-WWII Germany has had strict controls on public hate speech of all types, as a legacy of national shame/disgust about the Holocaust. I’m all for free speech, but I can’t really blame them for exercising caution, all things considered.
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#16Free speech, European style.
Free speech, the correct way. In my opinion, of course. (The following is not so much directed at you; I don't know you, after all. It's just that I need to rant, as always when Americans lecture us on free speech. "You" is not the personal you, but "you Americans on web forums") Don't mistake your version of free speech for a canonical implementation. Keep your hate speech and school shootings, be proud of it, and b…
Wouldn't it be better to explain why you think that it is the correct form of free speech rather than disparage others? You say you hate being 'lectured by Americans' but you don't seem much better...
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#17I don't follow the topic closely but it seems there would be a difference between "hate speech" and not wanting large numbers of immigrants from a poor violent region immigrating into one's society. I suspect the second is sometimes confused with the first, maybe on occasion deliberately by policy makers or others with an agenda.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Free speech, the correct way. In my opinion, of course. (The following is not so much directed at you; I don't know you, after all. It's just that I need to rant, as always when Americans lecture us on free speech. "You" is not the personal you, but "you Americans on web forums") Don't mistake your version of free speech for a canonical implementation. Keep your hate speech and school shootings, be proud of it, and b…
Thank you for writing this (and I say that as an American). We as a country are are gargantuan hypocrites about this whole thing; the idea of free speech in our Constitution--to say nothing of plenty of other privileges that we pretend are rights--is one of many things we don't pass on to the people we claim hegemony over. We are tremendously bad at owning our shit. I wish we were better.
As a human...
The GP was just as condescending as the GGP. His rush to stereotype Americans was largely comical. He makes it quite clear at the beginning that his buttons were simply (and easily) pushed; and this his rant was justified in his eyes. He simply emoted all over this thread to the benefit of no one but himself.
It is not my status as an American that I defend or his status as a German(?) that I attack when I point out the hypocrisy or limits in his version of free speech. Nor does my acknoledgement of those limits imply I am not familiar with the history and hypocrisy of the United States and its voracious appetite for hegemony, empire building, and oppression of peoples (including the restriction or punishment of ostensibly free speech) both within and without its borders.
This entire thread reads like a bunch of petulant children pointing fingers. Neither side defends the merits of their version of free speech nor makes salient points about the others' version of free speech; leading to no greater understanding and apparently prompting people to take sides in a conflict that doesn't even have to exist.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Free speech, the correct way. In my opinion, of course. (The following is not so much directed at you; I don't know you, after all. It's just that I need to rant, as always when Americans lecture us on free speech. "You" is not the personal you, but "you Americans on web forums") Don't mistake your version of free speech for a canonical implementation. Keep your hate speech and school shootings, be proud of it, and b…
Wouldn't it be better to explain why you think that it is the correct form of free speech rather than disparage others? You say you hate being 'lectured by Americans' but you don't seem much better...
He actually seems a lot worse. I think there should be a rule he doesn't get to talk anymore unless he says only nice things:)
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#20I don't understand how deleting an online record of hate speech and threats of violence is going to do anything to help solve any problems. It will make the net look prettier, but the people who would post such things will still be there thinking and feeling exactly as they do now.
A call for violence can incite violence. So, removing calls for violence will help reduce violence.