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The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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> Amazed, I ask Hotz what it felt like the first time he got the car to work. >“Dude,” he says, “the first time it worked was this morning.” I can't tell if this is a joke or unbridled hubris. Either way, self driving cars seem like a new hacker space.

Also: "Hotz hadn’t programmed any of these behaviors into the vehicle. He can’t really explain all the reasons it does what it does." Good luck to him understanding how to fix corner cases: he's built a black box.

This will be safe on the road for sure.

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> “I understand the state-of-the-art papers,” he says. “The math is simple. For the first time in my life, I’m like, ‘I know everything there is to know.’ ” Yep, he's still in his twenties.

But that belief is enough to attempt something that more experienced people would hesitate to start. Naivety is a very good thing at times. I've seen average people achieve incredible things, and not because what they did was incredible... but just because they started work on things that no-one else thought they could complete. Some way into it, when enough progress has been made, people have rushed to give support…

I don't disagree with that. I've worked with some very smart people in my 20s who sounded similar to Hotz -- enthusiastic, retrospectively naive about their understanding of a field, but above all, superbly intelligent. They did really great things, things that maybe didn't work perfectly or as envisioned, but still things that might scared off more experienced folks.

But also now that I am in my 30s, and they are as well, we frequently look back at that time and laugh about being that young. "Man, you were fun to work with, but also what were we thinking"

So I definitely wish Hotz all the luck. If nothing else, the more smart people working on the problem of self driving cars, the better.

My comment mostly stemmed from amusement of his quotes.

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Geo Hotz amazes me!! With that said, can he be prosecuted for using his driverless car on public roads without a license to do so?

Possibly, since California I think has specific laws governing self-driving cars, and it sounds like he wants to test it there. If he's in a state that doesn't have laws on self-driving cars, it'd probably be up to existing laws. Is he driving recklessly?

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>At Google, he found very smart developers who were often assigned mundane tasks like fixing bugs in a Web browser; at Facebook, brainy coders toiled away trying to figure out how to make users click on ads.

I'm not sure those two are equally horrible though - fixing complex bugs requires using lot of skills and the high you get when you finally nail it is nothing to miss.

Getting people to click on ads though - that's genuinely depressing.

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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> “Frankly, I think you should just work at Tesla,” Musk wrote to Hotz in an e-mail. “I’m happy to work out a multimillion-dollar bonus with a longer time horizon that pays out as soon as we discontinue Mobileye.” > “I appreciate the offer,” Hotz replied, “but like I’ve said, I’m not looking for a job. I’ll ping you when I crush Mobileye.” > Musk simply answered, “OK.” I have to agree with Elon here, Hotz is such a g…

I'd be far more interested in a piece of software for my car put out by Hotz than either Google or Tesla. Because the latter two are almost certainly going to keep it proprietary as heck. (Tesla has notoriously actually called people to ask them to stop tinkering with their car when they detect the interface has been connected to.)

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>The smartest people I knew were in high school, and I was so let down by the people in college. He seems like a good person to get into business with. He's so non-judgmental. Reminds me of myself and all the stupid things I said to VCs in my 20s.

Aren't judgmental people the best kind of people to get into business with? At least as long as they can judge people/situations accurately. Because that implies that they will make better decisions for your company w.r.t hiring initial people and choosing strategies

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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It looks like he has various sensors for gathering driving data. But how do you really know when you have gathered enough dimensions of data in this situation? How do you train for edge cases?

I imagine there will still have to be some hard rules in case the AI encounters edge cases.

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