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John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack

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Re: John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack

#13
home encryption is killing government,

...and it's illegal.

The US government is a monolithic institution that is governed by the mandate "move slow and break things". They can only legislate what they can enforce. They can't stop people sharing music, they can't stop people sharing data, and they sure as fuck won't be able to stop encryption.

They definitely will be able to drive it underground and limit the average American's privacy though. It is just that, as far as anyone can be a typical America, they aren't a hardened radicalized terrorist. Let's take stock of the wars against nouns:

* War on Drugs, massive failure.

* War on Terror, not only failure, likely made problem worse.

* War on Math, if we measure this by people prevented from using encryption, then we are losing. However, if we measure this by student test scores relative to other nations, we are def. winning the war against math.

Re: John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack

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I love how Republicans believe that outlawing guns won't stop criminals from having guns while at the same time believing that outlawing encryption will keep criminals from using encryption. Encryption methods are far easier to transport and spread illegally than gun are.

Keep your generalizations to yourself. There is a wide array of Republicans who believe in limited government not cracking private security because it doesn't belong there. McCain is a nice guy but is an extreme hawk.

Re: John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack

#15

I love how Republicans believe that outlawing guns won't stop criminals from having guns while at the same time believing that outlawing encryption will keep criminals from using encryption. Encryption methods are far easier to transport and spread illegally than gun are.

We need to somehow classify encryption as an armament, so that it'll be protected by the second amendment.

Re: John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack

#16

I love how Republicans believe that outlawing guns won't stop criminals from having guns while at the same time believing that outlawing encryption will keep criminals from using encryption. Encryption methods are far easier to transport and spread illegally than gun are.

"Republicans"

Rand Paul is pretty openly pro-encryption. Hillary Clinton is equivocating; I think she's probably anti-encryption. These may be exceptions that prove the rule but I think what we're really seeing is a combination of ignorance, pandering and authoritarianism across the spectrum.

Re: John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack

#17
Evidently he doesn't realize that this is like asking for addition or subtraction to be outlawed, which is nonsensical.

Like adding, subtracting, multiplying, and dividing, encrypting is a mathematical operation that transforms numbers into other numbers.

Re: John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack

#18

I swear the media has a bias too. So many articles are bashing encryption lately. I wish I could do more to fight misinformation and general ignorance than posting on my Facebook though. Ideas?

Big media is controlled by powerful politicians.

Re: John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack

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post #15

I love how Republicans believe that outlawing guns won't stop criminals from having guns while at the same time believing that outlawing encryption will keep criminals from using encryption. Encryption methods are far easier to transport and spread illegally than gun are.

We need to somehow classify encryption as an armament, so that it'll be protected by the second amendment.

We've done that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_th...

Re: John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack

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> "...News emerging from Paris — as well as evidence from a Belgian ISIS raid in January — suggests that the ISIS terror networks involved were communicating in the clear, and that the data on their smartphones was not encrypted."

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151118/08474732854/after...

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