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Re: Zero taxes for startups in Albania

#11
To pay taxes there has to be a profit first. The concept of a startup in general is complete focus on fast growth: every penny earned, borrowed, received is invested and therefore no profit is made. So most startups will not pay taxes anyway, wherever they are.

I think a well developed tech culture and VC companies for example are more important.

Re: Zero taxes for startups in Albania

#12
Tunisia also has no tax until you reach a certain threshold. I also guess no taxman will be interested in you until you reach some threshold. Taxes aside, there are many other things to consider if you want to run an Internet company.

- Internet connection.

- Internet and Digital Laws.

- Banking Options.

- Administrative complications.

- Accounting and Legal infrastructure.

- Office space, living costs, labor work-force...

Re: Zero taxes for startups in Albania

#13
post #11

To pay taxes there has to be a profit first. The concept of a startup in general is complete focus on fast growth: every penny earned, borrowed, received is invested and therefore no profit is made. So most startups will not pay taxes anyway, wherever they are. I think a well developed tech culture and VC companies for example are more important.

Investment is considered as asset gain in some accounting systems, leading to taxes. I am not an accountant, though.

Re: Zero taxes for startups in Albania

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Not that anyone would actually want to have a company in Albania, unless they had to. Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Gibraltar, Malta etc. are good options in Europe.

Switzerland is also good. Very low taxes, high living standard, well-educated workforce, rule of law etc. Read my story here: "Eight reasons why I moved to Switzerland": https://medium.com/@iwaninzurich/eight-reasons-why-i-moved-t... - If you are interested in coming to Switzerland, just shoot me a mail.

Switzerland is good if you are an employee, bootstrapping there is financial suicide.

Re: Zero taxes for startups in Albania

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Startups and small businesses in the United States organized as "S corporations" also pay zero taxes, and the qualification rules are a lot more permissive. To be a United States S corp the rules are: 1) Number of shareholders 2) All shareholders are humans and U.S. residents 3) There is only one class of stock For more, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_corporation

> Instead, the corporation's income or losses are divided among and passed through to its shareholders. The shareholders must then report the income or loss on their own individual income tax returns. That's not what I imagine when reading "zero taxes".

Yeah, that's just "taxes".

Re: Zero taxes for startups in Albania

#16
post #9

Startups and small businesses in the United States organized as "S corporations" also pay zero taxes, and the qualification rules are a lot more permissive. To be a United States S corp the rules are: 1) Number of shareholders 2) All shareholders are humans and U.S. residents 3) There is only one class of stock For more, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_corporation

> Instead, the corporation's income or losses are divided among and passed through to its shareholders. The shareholders must then report the income or loss on their own individual income tax returns. That's not what I imagine when reading "zero taxes".

Exactly. Everyone is still taxed, is just a question of accounting as to who and how you get taxed. To say U.S. corps are zero-taxed is quite misleading.

Re: Zero taxes for startups in Albania

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post #11

To pay taxes there has to be a profit first. The concept of a startup in general is complete focus on fast growth: every penny earned, borrowed, received is invested and therefore no profit is made. So most startups will not pay taxes anyway, wherever they are. I think a well developed tech culture and VC companies for example are more important.

> To pay taxes there has to be a profit first.

sadly, not necessarily, i.e. you can have taxes on gross revenue[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_receipts_tax

Re: Zero taxes for startups in Albania

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post #13
post #11

To pay taxes there has to be a profit first. The concept of a startup in general is complete focus on fast growth: every penny earned, borrowed, received is invested and therefore no profit is made. So most startups will not pay taxes anyway, wherever they are. I think a well developed tech culture and VC companies for example are more important.

Investment is considered as asset gain in some accounting systems, leading to taxes. I am not an accountant, though.

Investment is basically transforming one asset (cash) into another (tangible or intangible property). It doesn't say anything about profit and loss - and it's profit, that's taxed.

Now, in order to have some cash at all, you probably need some income - and that income, minus your costs is the profit, which will be taxed. So you want to turn your cash out for investment into cost, so you could minimize your earnings before taxes.

The catch is, that the investment is going to serve for years, so you can't deduce it all at once - you have to depreciate it (put a fraction of it's price into current years costs). [Of course, another reason is, that your country wants as much as taxes as possible right now, so for it more taxes paid now are better than zero taxes now and higher taxes next year.]

-- This is not an accounting advice, it is very simplified. Limitations apply. Consult a professional if you need it. There might be error due to printing or mistranslation. You know the drill.

Re: Zero taxes for startups in Albania

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Not that anyone would actually want to have a company in Albania, unless they had to. Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Gibraltar, Malta etc. are good options in Europe.

Switzerland is also good. Very low taxes, high living standard, well-educated workforce, rule of law etc. Read my story here: "Eight reasons why I moved to Switzerland": https://medium.com/@iwaninzurich/eight-reasons-why-i-moved-t... - If you are interested in coming to Switzerland, just shoot me a mail.

I read your blog post, but it seems that you aren't running a startup in Switzerland, just being an employee.
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