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Re: Dole Kemp '96

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A relic from the days when people thought that cheesy animated gifs that played continuously constituted good design.

Also the proper-nouning of "Web site" which I remember seeing in so many 90s-era style guides, but by the time I got my first professional web developer job in 2000 already seemed hopelessly antiquated.

Re: Dole Kemp '96

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post #8

A relic from the days when people thought that cheesy animated gifs that played continuously constituted good design.

Yet looping animated GIFs are more popular than ever today...

if you re-read the above comment imagining yourself as someone reading it many years in the future you can really appreciate it much more. thanks for putting me on that train of thought.

Re: Dole Kemp '96

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Not that I ever gave a wit about Bob Dole, but this is HN relevant: Bill Clinton Wants to Put "Big Brother" in Your Computer Bill Clinton believes in bureaucratic micro-management of the information economy. Within his first 100 days as President, Bill Clinton proposed the Clipper Chip -- a secret government-controlled encryption algorithm -- and a companion key escrow system where two government agencies would hold…

It's amazing when a candidate from 1996 sounds more reasonable on tech issues than most of the modern candidates.

Or in 1996, it was easier to put up a page on your website which panders to some hypothetical internet libertarian demographic that might vote for you.

Ultimately this is just typical American presidential political theater. By election day 1996, Dole and Clinton were in almost total agreement on internet issues. Telecommunications Act, Digital Millennium Copyright Act, etcetera.

Re: Dole Kemp '96

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Not that I ever gave a wit about Bob Dole, but this is HN relevant: Bill Clinton Wants to Put "Big Brother" in Your Computer Bill Clinton believes in bureaucratic micro-management of the information economy. Within his first 100 days as President, Bill Clinton proposed the Clipper Chip -- a secret government-controlled encryption algorithm -- and a companion key escrow system where two government agencies would hold…

It's a shame that people need to be reminded of these.

For some reason, people tend to see the past through rose-colored glasses.

Re: Dole Kemp '96

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Not only is this site still up (I'm assuming parts of it have gone down since it was originally posted), but the web-design firm that built the site still has a functioning front-page, made with the rock-hard kind of HTML design that maintain its appearance and functionality for at least the next decade of browser and standards changes:

http://www.presageinc.com/Presage%20Digital%20Stratgies.html

I think 1996 were the days in which high school age kids could get $30-$50 an hour making webpages of this quality for local businesses. That's not bad small town money when you adjust for inflation.

Re: Dole Kemp '96

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Not only is this site still up (I'm assuming parts of it have gone down since it was originally posted), but the web-design firm that built the site still has a functioning front-page, made with the rock-hard kind of HTML design that maintain its appearance and functionality for at least the next decade of browser and standards changes: http://www.presageinc.com/Presage%20Digital%20Stratgies.html I think 1996 were th…

Surely you're joking! That page may look like text, but in fact it's all (not just the header) a big image:

http://www.presageinc.com/Presage%20Digital%20Stratgies_file...

The same goes for http://www.presageinc.com/Presage_Digital_Strategies,_Inc./P..., to which http://www.presageinc.com/ redirects.

Re: Dole Kemp '96

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing when a candidate from 1996 sounds more reasonable on tech issues than most of the modern candidates.

Or in 1996, it was easier to put up a page on your website which panders to some hypothetical internet libertarian demographic that might vote for you. Ultimately this is just typical American presidential political theater. By election day 1996, Dole and Clinton were in almost total agreement on internet issues. Telecommunications Act, Digital Millennium Copyright Act, etcetera.

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Re: Dole Kemp '96

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post #15

Not only is this site still up (I'm assuming parts of it have gone down since it was originally posted), but the web-design firm that built the site still has a functioning front-page, made with the rock-hard kind of HTML design that maintain its appearance and functionality for at least the next decade of browser and standards changes: http://www.presageinc.com/Presage%20Digital%20Stratgies.html I think 1996 were th…

Surely you're joking! That page may look like text, but in fact it's all (not just the header) a big image: http://www.presageinc.com/Presage%20Digital%20Stratgies_file... The same goes for http://www.presageinc.com/Presage_Digital_Strategies,_Inc./P... , to which http://www.presageinc.com/ redirects.

Exactly. Totally consistent as long as image formats don't change ;)

I'm amazed at how much HTML markup it took for them to just display a static image. And it looks intentional, i.e. not like markup generated by saving a standard Frontpage/Dreamweaver file.

Re: Dole Kemp '96

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post #13
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing when a candidate from 1996 sounds more reasonable on tech issues than most of the modern candidates.

Or in 1996, it was easier to put up a page on your website which panders to some hypothetical internet libertarian demographic that might vote for you. Ultimately this is just typical American presidential political theater. By election day 1996, Dole and Clinton were in almost total agreement on internet issues. Telecommunications Act, Digital Millennium Copyright Act, etcetera.

In 1996, good luck finding many people who thought copyright was going overboard or talking about balance (heck, that's still a bit rare...). The DMCA would become law in just a couple years, it was a real pain to get a browser that wasn't hobbled with export ciphers, and Bill was actively pushing the Clipper chip.

About the only good thing that year was that Bill did ease encryption export restrictions by reclassifying it so it was no longer a "munition" but there were still controls, just via a different list.

Re: Dole Kemp '96

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely you're joking! That page may look like text, but in fact it's all (not just the header) a big image: http://www.presageinc.com/Presage%20Digital%20Stratgies_file... The same goes for http://www.presageinc.com/Presage_Digital_Strategies,_Inc./P... , to which http://www.presageinc.com/ redirects.

Exactly. Totally consistent as long as image formats don't change ;) I'm amazed at how much HTML markup it took for them to just display a static image. And it looks intentional, i.e. not like markup generated by saving a standard Frontpage/Dreamweaver file.

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