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Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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I may be missing something, but why don't they build a car park and widen the road? Surely it's a lot easier than trying to stop people going to one of the most recognisable landmarks in the world. It's definitely worrying that major tech companies are willing to alter their maps at the request of a few wealthy individuals.

NIMBY psychology strikes again?

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #3

I may be missing something, but why don't they build a car park and widen the road? Surely it's a lot easier than trying to stop people going to one of the most recognisable landmarks in the world. It's definitely worrying that major tech companies are willing to alter their maps at the request of a few wealthy individuals.

Because they are angry people.

Angry!

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least until Google vandalizes it. http://www.wired.com/2012/01/osm-google-accusation/

Please don't spread this kind of FUD – even the article you linked to is much more measured. It's pretty silly to imply that there was any corporate action on behalf of Google aimed at vandalising OSM at the same time as the were sponsoring their annual conference .

I agree with your criticism, but I don't think sponsoring a conference is definitive proof of good will or alignment of interests. Some of the companies that sponsor Linux and FOSS conferences also take actions, for example in court, that are against the interests of those communities.

Edit: I'm reminded of Thomas Schelling's notion of "incomplete antagonism" :-)

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #3

I may be missing something, but why don't they build a car park and widen the road? Surely it's a lot easier than trying to stop people going to one of the most recognisable landmarks in the world. It's definitely worrying that major tech companies are willing to alter their maps at the request of a few wealthy individuals.

Exactly, they could turn this into a beautiful destination with parking etc. Charge a small fee to pay for maintenance, close after 6pm. Everybody is happy.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #3

I may be missing something, but why don't they build a car park and widen the road? Surely it's a lot easier than trying to stop people going to one of the most recognisable landmarks in the world. It's definitely worrying that major tech companies are willing to alter their maps at the request of a few wealthy individuals.

It sounds like he's discussing some fire road that probably isn't practical to turn into a real road (this is steep, hilly terrain where most buildable space has been used) but there are reasonable places to park and hike like Griffith Observatory.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Misleading the public doesn't solve the issue. I live inside the medieval walls of a historic French town and we are 'overrun' with tourists. However, despite some of them being rather inconvienient, it isn't like I have the right to shut down the street in front of my house to prevent the intrusive traffic that makes it difficult to even exit my garage. I knew about this 'issue' when I bought the house. And, even if…

Hello, anyone caring to explain why this post is being downvoted?

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #11
post #3

I may be missing something, but why don't they build a car park and widen the road? Surely it's a lot easier than trying to stop people going to one of the most recognisable landmarks in the world. It's definitely worrying that major tech companies are willing to alter their maps at the request of a few wealthy individuals.

NIMBY psychology strikes again?

"NIMBY (an acronym for the phrase "Not In My Back Yard"), or Nimby, is a pejorative characterization of opposition by residents to a proposal for a new development because it is close to them, often with the connotation that such residents believe that the developments are needed in society but should be further away."

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #3

I may be missing something, but why don't they build a car park and widen the road? Surely it's a lot easier than trying to stop people going to one of the most recognisable landmarks in the world. It's definitely worrying that major tech companies are willing to alter their maps at the request of a few wealthy individuals.

Maybe it's not possible to get planning permission to build a car park because it's near a public park. It really does seem like there is an opportunity here that isn't being exploited though. Why doesn't someone start running tours up there? A couple of buses wouldn't cause a problem and there's money to be made from this.

At the end of the article it seems they are saying that a shuttle is currently being worked on.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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The attempt to turn public property into the property of the locals reminds me of a similar, non-tech-related case, also in LA - Malibu beaches.

According to the law of the state of California, all beaches are public property. Of course, this gets a bit complicated when an individual owns the land in front of the beach. The people who buy houses in Malibu would, of course, prefer to have a private beach section. So they put up gates and hire security guards (illegally), block public parking spots (either physically or by putting up counterfeit "no parking" signs), etc. They've historically gotten away with it because the enforcement agency is underfunded and the enforcement process is expensive (a separate civil lawsuit for each offender). That may change soon though:

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-me-coastal-penalties-20140...

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