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Show HN: My failed-wannabe-saas-startup project Beyondpad going open source

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Re: Show HN: My failed-wannabe-saas-startup project Beyondpad going open source

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Post by dzjosjusuns »

chandika wrote: post #7

I'm curious to know how / at what point you decided it has failed? What metrics helped?

It came down from two sides. I kinda burned out while working on Android app and I was expecting much more users and engagement. And I didn't want to create another note taking app - idea for BP is to be one unified place for your data. And notes is only one form of casual-data. Sentiment was like this - Imagine note taking app, calendar app, task tracking app, etc. as destinations on a map. And to get to each of those destinations you need to have special vehicle for each one! So idea was to try to state than notes, calendar entries, tasks, fitness info etc. ar casual-data. And you can have one tool that gives you mechanics to aggregate and manipulate those data in one unified place. Where then you can slice, combine and get insights on your data as a whole. And its is hard to pitch something so generic!

Re: Show HN: My failed-wannabe-saas-startup project Beyondpad going open source

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Post by dzjosjusuns »

fiatjaf wrote: post #9

Whoa, that seems awesome. I think it is too full-featured for me (also, I don't use these kind of apps), but I would imagine people would be using this. It seems much better and faster than Evernote or Trello, for example. Why "data-driven"?

data-driven cause I want Beyondpad to be about casual-data. And notes are only one form of casual data! Other forms could be calendar entries, task tracking. Or for example when Ill add ability for tags to work as bi-directional data adapters, you could create tag "hacker news", and under that tag, this feed would show up! If this info would be something you considered for yourself as data you are interested in.

Re: Show HN: My failed-wannabe-saas-startup project Beyondpad going open source

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Post by fiatjaf »

dzjosjusuns wrote: post #13
fiatjaf wrote: post #9

Whoa, that seems awesome. I think it is too full-featured for me (also, I don't use these kind of apps), but I would imagine people would be using this. It seems much better and faster than Evernote or Trello, for example. Why "data-driven"?

data-driven cause I want Beyondpad to be about casual-data. And notes are only one form of casual data! Other forms could be calendar entries, task tracking. Or for example when Ill add ability for tags to work as bi-directional data adapters, you could create tag "hacker news", and under that tag, this feed would show up! If this info would be something you considered for yourself as data you are interested in.

That's a thing I like. Did you get users doing this kind of complex data manipulation? Or did them all just use the app as a simple note-taking app?

I've been making prototypes for a long time now to try to turn Trello (or make my own Trello-like app) into a "data-driven" collaboration platform. I think the idea is similar. My idea was to let people create magic Trello cards that would behave like database queries, or mapreduce views, for example, a card with some special instructions would show an aggregate value based on properties of all other cards in the board, or list; another magic card could show a list of links to some other cards, working as an index; that kind of thing.

From what you say I imagine your app is probably better than what I am only imagining for this Trello-thing. However, my idea was to have this for teams, small businesses and projects. Since I'm not used to note-taking apps, calendars, smartphones or anything like that I don't imagine a tool like this for my own "casual data" (but the name "casual data" is a good one, maybe you should use it more on your marketing efforts).

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