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The Lonely Death of George Bell

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Re: The Lonely Death of George Bell

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We need a society where every person is needed and wanted. We need it more than any dumb technical advance that lessens the need for people, like robots delivering pizza or whatever. That will take some heavy thinking, though, and I feel that we haven't even started.

A lot of us that are building the dumb technical advances that lessen the need for people don't particularly like people, in the general case. I suspect we'll continue to do so.

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We need a society where every person is needed and wanted. We need it more than any dumb technical advance that lessens the need for people, like robots delivering pizza or whatever. That will take some heavy thinking, though, and I feel that we haven't even started.

A lot of us that are building the dumb technical advances that lessen the need for people don't particularly like people, in the general case. I suspect we'll continue to do so.

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A lot of us that are building the dumb technical advances that lessen the need for people don't particularly like people, in the general case. I suspect we'll continue to do so.

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Amazing piece of logic here, "you came out of people -> you depend on people" and "you must like people" is implied.

I hate that I have to depend on people. I find them unreliable at best. Which is why a lot of us are working to improve the primitive societies we currently live in in order to REMOVE that dependency. I'd rather depend on algorithms (and in fact I do, more and more every single day that passes) than anything as primitive as people.

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Amazing piece of logic here, "you came out of people -> you depend on people" and "you must like people" is implied. I hate that I have to depend on people. I find them unreliable at best. Which is why a lot of us are working to improve the primitive societies we currently live in in order to REMOVE that dependency. I'd rather depend on algorithms (and in fact I do, more and more every single day that passes) than an…

Liking and disliking are not the only choices. I'm saying to see the world the way it is.

Also, would you say your refuge in algorithms is your way of trying to control your reality? Algorithms are straight forward and predictable, unlike people. Thoughts?

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A wonderful piece, almost read like a novel. At the end, I couldn't help but try to derive some overall take-away. The best I could come up with was to cherish your friendships and always try to keep in touch. One concern I would have is whether or not today's internet-based culture could hinder this?

I'd say it cuts both ways. I don't get out much myself, but I keep pretty well in touch with friends from all walks of life via social media. In another era many of those relationships would have atrophied with both time and distance.

I do it the opposite way actually. No social media at all. I call, text, and email a whole host of people on a regular basis.

Social media is honestly a hindrance of friendships. If you want to know about an old friend you haven't talked to in a while, punch up their facebook/instagram/twitter. All caught up. No need to interact whatsoever. I call, email, and text, to maintain that sense of a personal connection.

Technology helps with having relationships not atrophy, I completely agree. Social media however, I see it as a hindrance to sincere connections with people more than a boon to preserving relationships.

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Amazing piece of logic here, "you came out of people -> you depend on people" and "you must like people" is implied. I hate that I have to depend on people. I find them unreliable at best. Which is why a lot of us are working to improve the primitive societies we currently live in in order to REMOVE that dependency. I'd rather depend on algorithms (and in fact I do, more and more every single day that passes) than an…

Algorithms are much more primitive than people by definition. You seem to have intended to convey the opposite, a preference for relying on primitives over complicated persons.

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I never understood this stigma about hermits/social isolation in western societies. In the east, it's much more accepted. Reading this piece I got the impression that the writer and persons interviewed were HORRIFIED by what they discovered. It seemed to me as if "having friends" was pretty fucking high in their list-of-important-things-in-life. I was very amused by this, almost started laughing in fact. Human relati…

I once heard someone say "You can give everyone else but yourself a soul." While I don't really know what that means, I think of it whenever I'm by myself for long durations (3-4 months on average).
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