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Not arguing for/against, just want to know reasons beyond "i just dont like it".
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Run everything from the phone through a VPN over iCloud servers, so all traffic from every iPhone in the world hits the internet as if it comes out of Cupertino? Install Tor as an OS-level feature?
Tor as an OS-level feature may not spark the best reaction. It's been given a bad name ("deep web," silk road, etc) in mass media and many people don't understand it enough to think of it as anything other than bad. I think that it'd be cool to have, but I don't think that Apple would ever implement it.
They should be sued for that. There is no way most customers are informed and intentionally consenting to them tampering with the HTTP requests they send to include their customer ID. The obvious expectation of a customer of an ISP is that it sends the data through unchanged.
The data is unchanged. Most ISPs have internal tracking for each request to see how network data flows. You can just think of this as Verizon leaving those tags on - and in this case it owns AOL so it's sharing within the same entity. Not saying good/bad - just how they treat it.
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Run everything from the phone through a VPN over iCloud servers, so all traffic from every iPhone in the world hits the internet as if it comes out of Cupertino? Install Tor as an OS-level feature?
Tor as an OS-level feature may not spark the best reaction. It's been given a bad name ("deep web," silk road, etc) in mass media and many people don't understand it enough to think of it as anything other than bad. I think that it'd be cool to have, but I don't think that Apple would ever implement it.
And what could transform public opinion of the software to the positive, over night, better than Apple adopting it?
What exactly is the big aversion to tracking? The vast majority has shown (via actions, not internet noise) that they don't care so what exactly is the big downside? Not arguing for/against, just want to know reasons beyond "i just dont like it".
This kind of aggressive and underhanded behavior should be shamed as it violates the trust that users have in their ISPs.
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Run everything from the phone through a VPN over iCloud servers, so all traffic from every iPhone in the world hits the internet as if it comes out of Cupertino? Install Tor as an OS-level feature?
Tor as an OS-level feature may not spark the best reaction. It's been given a bad name ("deep web," silk road, etc) in mass media and many people don't understand it enough to think of it as anything other than bad. I think that it'd be cool to have, but I don't think that Apple would ever implement it.
Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10354692
One downside is that the original submitter of a story doesn't always end up with the karma for it.
I think a ISP that manipulates data beyond what is necessary for transport should lose it's immunity and associated privileges.
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Run everything from the phone through a VPN over iCloud servers, so all traffic from every iPhone in the world hits the internet as if it comes out of Cupertino? Install Tor as an OS-level feature?
Tor as an OS-level feature may not spark the best reaction. It's been given a bad name ("deep web," silk road, etc) in mass media and many people don't understand it enough to think of it as anything other than bad. I think that it'd be cool to have, but I don't think that Apple would ever implement it.
What exactly is the big aversion to tracking? The vast majority has shown (via actions, not internet noise) that they don't care so what exactly is the big downside? Not arguing for/against, just want to know reasons beyond "i just dont like it".
Zombie cookies in particular are insidious -- while you are actively trying to conceal your identity by proactively deleting cookies or using incognito mode, your ISP re-adds them without your consent. This kind of aggressive and underhanded behavior should be shamed as it violates the trust that users have in their ISPs.
I get why zombie cookies are bad as it takes control away, but what is the issue surrounding plain tracking of behaviours? So what if a company knows the history of sites you've visited - what does this do against you?