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Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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OOC how many people would be interested in a Perl 6 Corporate Look n' Feel type site? Where everything is just designed to be boring and on message for production use in a business setting. Front page has Docker deployment and continuous integration setup steps etc. (that all exists and works FYI) Everything would be muted colours and mostly cloning the style of https://www.haskell.org/ or https://nodejs.org/en/ or even as spartan as https://www.rust-lang.org/

I love Perl 6 but I utterly reject and hate the Fisher Price look and feel. It makes it impossible to have a serious conversation at work about Perl 6 or get anyone less than light hearted to care about taking a look at the language. There is so much great stuff there, and basically none of it is for children. I'd go as far to say as Perl 6 would be an awful language for very young children. Something like Scratch has put the effort in there. The idea of Camelia being friendly to kids is a great sentiment... but thats as deep as anyone's effort or considerations have gone for children learning to program in the Perl 6 community. IMHO anyone who feels that's a harsh assessment has probably never attempted to teach programming to young children, I have! It's a near impossible task, and the last thing you touch is syntax or documentation websites. I cant help but feel Camelia and her scheming colours are ham stringing adoption by anyone else looking in from their cubicle or startup loft. Maybe I'm very wrong and everyone loves the bug?

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Nice to see Perl 6 coming along! Even if it doesn't garner the developer base Perl 5 had back in the 90s, I think Perl 6 is important to push the art of programming along. Kudos to the Perl 6 team.

- Would be nice to make the intro copy more informative. Like: why would I want to use it as a developer? What does it look like compared to my favorite language?

- Really like the examples, especially since I haven't done much with Perl 6. However, like Perl 5, it still looks like parseable line noise to the untrained eye. Would be nice to have some better explanations to go along with the code. Maybe not right on the homepage, but at least linked into it.

- Would like to see the "For Newcomers" links on the "Documentation" page on the homepage.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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This reminds me of when jQuery had a cartoon ninja on their homepage. Am I seriously looking at a page targeted at grown adults with a talking butterfly on it?

Also, 'spunky little sister' doesn't mean the same thing in the UK as the US...

Yeah that did occur to me too, but either way "spunky" is never a word I want to see when I'm reading about a programming language.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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This reminds me of when jQuery had a cartoon ninja on their homepage. Am I seriously looking at a page targeted at grown adults with a talking butterfly on it?

Also, 'spunky little sister' doesn't mean the same thing in the UK as the US...

Well it can by context, but yeah sniggering does abound. At least she doesn't also have a "fanny pack" in the logo too.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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This ship sailed 10 years ago. It's too little too late. The real question is whether python3 can avoid the same fate...

I would say that they are different issues.

Python 3 really is almost 7 years old and it is moving forward. The Wall of Shame has become the Wall of Super Powers. The scope for Python 3 was different than Perl 6.

Perl 6 was to be ageless and for all time. Python 3 was a fix to a broken issues in Python 2 having redundant ways to do things.

> Python 3.0 was developed with the same philosophy as in prior versions. However, as Python had accumulated new and redundant ways to program the same task, Python 3.0 had an emphasis on removing duplicative constructs and modules, in keeping with "There should be one— and preferably only one —obvious way to do it". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Python

I don't mind there being more than one way to do things.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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This reminds me of when jQuery had a cartoon ninja on their homepage. Am I seriously looking at a page targeted at grown adults with a talking butterfly on it?

Did they really go through the exercise of trade marking the butterfly logo? They must be serious about this style of branding this version of Perl.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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OOC how many people would be interested in a Perl 6 Corporate Look n' Feel type site? Where everything is just designed to be boring and on message for production use in a business setting. Front page has Docker deployment and continuous integration setup steps etc. (that all exists and works FYI) Everything would be muted colours and mostly cloning the style of https://www.haskell.org/ or https://nodejs.org/en/ or e…

I love the bug, but it's because I have a two year old daughter.
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