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Why Futurism Has a Cultural Blindspot

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Re: Why Futurism Has a Cultural Blindspot

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post #10

Futurism is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurism And the article is not related at all, despite the (misleading) title.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurism_(disambiguation)

Futurists (from future studies) refer to the field as futurism, futurology, and future study. See usages https://www.google.com/search?q=futurism&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&h...

Re: Why Futurism Has a Cultural Blindspot

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post #9

> One futurist noted that a 1960s film of the “office of the future” made on-par technological predictions (fax machines and the like), but had a glaring omission: The office had no women. To be fair, most futurist thought work will be fully automated by now, and there would be NO people needed in the office or factory.

I work in IT, in an office with about 60 people. Two women.

That prediction came true.

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post #5

Honestly, I don't get what the article is about. Was probably expecting something deeper, e.g. why our vision of the future is always so wrong and dull and not only in terms of cultural changes. Take any prediction from the 1960s for example and there will be a lot of food for ridicule. A self driving car in the year 2000 (well, ok so far), going at 500mph and the passenger reading a newspaper in the meantime. Can it…

>A self driving car in the year 2000 (well, ok so far), going at 500mph and the passenger reading a newspaper in the meantime. Can it get any more wrong than this?

I think those are trivial errors (got the car right, missed the tablet or internet).

What can be more wrong is not predicting cultural and lifestyle changes affected by technology etc in the future.

Re: Why Futurism Has a Cultural Blindspot

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post #5

Honestly, I don't get what the article is about. Was probably expecting something deeper, e.g. why our vision of the future is always so wrong and dull and not only in terms of cultural changes. Take any prediction from the 1960s for example and there will be a lot of food for ridicule. A self driving car in the year 2000 (well, ok so far), going at 500mph and the passenger reading a newspaper in the meantime. Can it…

The article is about how people into "futurism", like people over at /r/futurism or a large part of HN's userbase, keeps wishing people would stop "concerning" themselves with society and politics to bring technological future faster, have a big blind spot about what really matters and changes our lives.

G.K. Chesterton points out, in reply to the original manifesto:

Suffice it to say that Futurism has a gratifying dislike both of Liberal politics and Christian morals; I say gratifying because, however unfortunately the cross and the cap of liberty have quarrelled, they are always united in the feeble hatred of such silly megalomaniacs as these. They will "glorify war--the only true hygiene of the world--militarism, patriotism, the destructive gesture of Anarchism, the beautiful ideas which kill, and the scorn of woman." They will "destroy museums, libraries, and fight against moralism, feminism, and all utilitarian cowardice."

The essay fleshes this out in a less combative way, making less assumptions about what Futurists are for, and merely critiquing their blind spots.

Re: Why Futurism Has a Cultural Blindspot

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I feel that the author bases the hypothesis on what journalists say sci-fi predicts (flying cars) not what they actually predict.

Most sci-fi deals with pretty radical views of culture in the future. Look no further than Banks' Culture-series, which deals a lot with the power-structures, norms and rules of a post-scarcity society. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_series

In one aspect futurism often looks like an extreme expression of contemporary culture when seen in retrospect is in futuristic architecture and design. E.g. http://vintageindustrialstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08...

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A bit of a pet peeve, but futurism already has a meaningful definition - it refers to an art movement at the start of the 20th century. Just because you like how the word sounds, it's pretty poor form to recycle it to indicate a particular trend you've 'identified'.

Re: Why Futurism Has a Cultural Blindspot

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Culture is made up of many abstract ideas ranging from values and customs that combine to make an interdependent complex system, prediction is impossible. And as the norms and values were shaped by situations that were random and or completely different to the situation we currently experience, we get another layer of complexity.

Re: Why Futurism Has a Cultural Blindspot

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post #15

I feel that the author bases the hypothesis on what journalists say sci-fi predicts (flying cars) not what they actually predict. Most sci-fi deals with pretty radical views of culture in the future. Look no further than Banks' Culture-series, which deals a lot with the power-structures, norms and rules of a post-scarcity society. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_series In one aspect futurism often looks like an…

I really enjoy Iain Banks but I don't think he's particularly popular with Reddit-style futurists. Passages like this one usually make em balk:

Intelligence, which is capable of looking farther ahead than the next aggressive mutation, can set up long-term aims and work towards them; the same amount of raw invention that bursts in all directions from the market can be - to some degree - channelled and directed, so that while the market merely shines (and the feudal gutters), the planned lases, reaching out coherently and efficiently towards agreed-on goals. What is vital for such a scheme, however, and what was always missing in the planned economies of our world's experience, is the continual, intimate and decisive participation of the mass of the citizenry in determining these goals, and designing as well as implementing the plans which should lead towards them.

http://www.vavatch.co.uk/books/banks/cultnote.htm

Re: Why Futurism Has a Cultural Blindspot

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post #15

I feel that the author bases the hypothesis on what journalists say sci-fi predicts (flying cars) not what they actually predict. Most sci-fi deals with pretty radical views of culture in the future. Look no further than Banks' Culture-series, which deals a lot with the power-structures, norms and rules of a post-scarcity society. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_series In one aspect futurism often looks like an…

I really enjoy Iain Banks but I don't think he's particularly popular with Reddit-style futurists. Passages like this one usually make em balk: Intelligence, which is capable of looking farther ahead than the next aggressive mutation, can set up long-term aims and work towards them; the same amount of raw invention that bursts in all directions from the market can be - to some degree - channelled and directed, so tha…

Well then "reddit-style futurists" can take a running jump. There's not much point thinking about past and future history if you're going to consider only the toys (technology) and not the games (social systems).
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