Too little RAM and too little I/O for the price if you compare to VPS servers.
Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers
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#12The 11.88 € option has an Exynos 5422 + 2 GB RAM + 32 GB MicroSD card -- those are guts of a Galaxy S5 or Galaxy Note 3 smartphone. Interesting choice for a server.
I think by "interesting" you meant to write "terrible". I'm wondering who on earth is the market for this? 32 bit ARM (even A15) is not a great server platform. If it had been 64 bit ARM with a real amount of RAM and an SSD then it might be more interesting. Even there (and I say this as someone who has an APM Mustang under my desk), it's more likely of benefit to people hosting web servers at scale than for VPS.
Pretty niche, but they would likely be good for running CI for ARM. Or just for offloading tests to, it would be much better than emulation.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think by "interesting" you meant to write "terrible". I'm wondering who on earth is the market for this? 32 bit ARM (even A15) is not a great server platform. If it had been 64 bit ARM with a real amount of RAM and an SSD then it might be more interesting. Even there (and I say this as someone who has an APM Mustang under my desk), it's more likely of benefit to people hosting web servers at scale than for VPS.
> I'm wondering who on earth is the market for this? People whose web pages generate a lot of traffic (10TB allowed) with low CPU usage, i.e. static pages and similar.
>People whose web pages generate a lot of traffic (10TB allowed) with low CPU usage, i.e. static pages and similar.
Surely such cases are better served by offloading to a CDN. As much as I hate centralizing to one company, CloudFlare nails this pretty damn well.
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#14What exactly is stopping ARM boards to have high IO? Just allow people to use a normal 2.5" SSD or even m2 and you have a really nice machine! For example, the latest Raspberry Pi 2 has a quad-core CPU which is faster than my 1st machine (and maybe even my 2nd and 3rd) but is severly handicaped by the IO speed which is limited to USB (plus, all the USB ports and Ethernet using the same controller for extra slowness).…
The Raspberry Pi CPUs were designed for smartphones, so they have a limited USB port that was only intended to support that use case.
To the extent these sorts of boards use CPUs that are cheap because they are made in high volume for other applications, we'll continue to suffer from IO limitations for what we want.
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#15What exactly is stopping ARM boards to have high IO? Just allow people to use a normal 2.5" SSD or even m2 and you have a really nice machine! For example, the latest Raspberry Pi 2 has a quad-core CPU which is faster than my 1st machine (and maybe even my 2nd and 3rd) but is severly handicaped by the IO speed which is limited to USB (plus, all the USB ports and Ethernet using the same controller for extra slowness).…
>For example, the latest Raspberry Pi 2 ... handicaped by the IO speed which is limited to USB
The ODROID XU4 (referenced specifically by this link) has much better I/O throughput than Pi 2. It's still pretty affordable, too (75-80 USD).
> supporting at least 8GB
This is less common, but I figure it should arrive within 12-18 months.
Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers
#16What exactly is stopping ARM boards to have high IO? Just allow people to use a normal 2.5" SSD or even m2 and you have a really nice machine! For example, the latest Raspberry Pi 2 has a quad-core CPU which is faster than my 1st machine (and maybe even my 2nd and 3rd) but is severly handicaped by the IO speed which is limited to USB (plus, all the USB ports and Ethernet using the same controller for extra slowness).…
For 32 bit ARM, it seems to be shortcuts in the SoC design a.k.a there's a reason some boards cost under $50. There exist some designs with real SATA (eg. Cubietruck) but those have poor CPUs (A7), and there exist many designs with SATA-via-USB which is never going to be fast. Also micro SD cards have abysmal performance for the sort of random I/O that operating system root filesystems have. Luckily the situation in…
I would say it is not so much shortcuts as the fact that the 32-bit SoCs are generally designed for mobile. The only way to get a cheap devboard is to use an SoC which is being produced in high volume, so it doesn't have a prohibitive cost. That means you get the peripherals that a mobile phone or tablet wants, and not the ones that it doesn't, typically. If you insist on using an SoC custom designed for a devboard then the board is probably going to be tens of thousands of dollars.
64-bit is better because there are SoCs directly targeting server usecases which therefore have the kind of peripherals you'd prefer to see in devboards.
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#17What exactly is stopping ARM boards to have high IO? Just allow people to use a normal 2.5" SSD or even m2 and you have a really nice machine! For example, the latest Raspberry Pi 2 has a quad-core CPU which is faster than my 1st machine (and maybe even my 2nd and 3rd) but is severly handicaped by the IO speed which is limited to USB (plus, all the USB ports and Ethernet using the same controller for extra slowness).…
It really is just a question of SoC choice: the iMX53 (for example) has SATA, but in single quantities just the chip costs the same as a whole Pi.
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#18Horrible price for the hardware. I mean, as a proof of concept it is OK, but the power these deliver is laughable for the price they have.
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#19Everyone who says this is a bad price for the hardware, please link me to any other bare metal server for rent at 16e/mo. I haven't seen it, not at Hetzner, nor anywhere else.
You can hate on it all you want, but this is simply a unique offering.
Re: Samsung Exynos-5422 Octa-Core Servers
#20Everyone who says this is a bad price for the hardware, please link me to any other bare metal server for rent at 16e/mo. I haven't seen it, not at Hetzner, nor anywhere else. You can hate on it all you want, but this is simply a unique offering.
Surely this? https://www.scaleway.com/