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Firefox 4.0: New Design Changes Revealed

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Re: Firefox 4.0: New Design Changes Revealed

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Do you remember in the comics of chrome, they said they were doing it to help other browsers. They also said they'd really like to have their ideas borrowed to make the web a better place.

which parts are so Chromish? the new Firefox button comes from Microsoft Office. the space between tabs comes from either Opera or Microsoft Office. the tabs on top, which is only a possibility at this point, comes from Opera first, but was implemented by Google Chrome down the line. the use of so much transparency in the menu may come from Microsoft Office or Chrome. the non-flat buttons can come from Opera or Chrom…

Have you used chrome recently? While they might have borrowed ideas from other UI designs, never before did Firefox look more like chrome.

Not that its a bad thing. Throughout its history FF have taken design ideas from IE, Opera extensively. For all we know, FF most likely wouldn't even consider such a drastic UI change if chrome wasn't in the picture. FF UI changes has always been incremental and subtle.

Re: Firefox 4.0: New Design Changes Revealed

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Do you remember in the comics of chrome, they said they were doing it to help other browsers. They also said they'd really like to have their ideas borrowed to make the web a better place.

Indeed. It would be even better (and noble) if they mentioned Chrome by name somewhere.

That's absurd. Why would anyone publish a list of upcoming features and then mention which competitor they're borrowing them from?

Re: Firefox 4.0: New Design Changes Revealed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. It would be even better (and noble) if they mentioned Chrome by name somewhere.

That's absurd. Why would anyone publish a list of upcoming features and then mention which competitor they're borrowing them from?

It's certainly not unheard of in the open source world to say that you've been inspired by another project.

I recently watched an official video by Googlers about the Chrome extensions, and they mention Firefox by name many times.

Re: Firefox 4.0: New Design Changes Revealed

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Non-linkjacked: http://blog.stephenhorlander.com/2009/12/21/windows-themeui-... (which I submitted earlier: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1007484 )

Mashable doesn't seem to enjoy giving others credit. The only link to the author is just a tiny link with the word "share". Even the name isn't mentioned. The original author deserves more than that.

Re: Firefox 4.0: New Design Changes Revealed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's absurd. Why would anyone publish a list of upcoming features and then mention which competitor they're borrowing them from?

It's certainly not unheard of in the open source world to say that you've been inspired by another project. I recently watched an official video by Googlers about the Chrome extensions, and they mention Firefox by name many times.

Yup, even on chrome blog, on recent videos they have mentioned webkit/safari/apple contributions several times.

Re: Firefox 4.0: New Design Changes Revealed

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How is this saving space? How is this Chrome-ish?

Chrome saved space by getting rid of the title bar (a bar that would just say "Chrome"). From these pictures, Firefox still has a whole bar that just says "Firefox." Why?

Mozilla, please allow us to place tabs on the Title bar!

And if you really want to blow Chrome out of the water, explore innovative vertical tab options. Tree style tabs is an immensely popular extension for a reason.

Re: Firefox 4.0: New Design Changes Revealed

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Non-linkjacked: http://blog.stephenhorlander.com/2009/12/21/windows-themeui-... (which I submitted earlier: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1007484 )

Mashable doesn't seem to enjoy giving others credit. The only link to the author is just a tiny link with the word "share". Even the name isn't mentioned. The original author deserves more than that.

I'm sorry about that. I've added a [via] tag at the bottom and expanded the link text to make sure credit is given where it is due.

- Ben (Co-Editor)

Re: Firefox 4.0: New Design Changes Revealed

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Very Chromish. I'm glad they're not too proud to borrow good ideas when they see them. Now if they can just improve stability and speed I may switch back from Chromium.

The Firefox menu in the top-left corner looks remarkably similar to the O menu that's appeared in the latest Opera alpha ( http://goo.gl/Chfb ). I like the way a lot of the cruft from 1990s Windows applications is starting to disappear from programmes that really don't need it like modern browsers.

Out of curiosity, why did you post a shortened link here instead of the canonical one? Does goo.gl give you some kind of clickthrough monitoring, or was there another reason?
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