For the security researchers out there, mainframes are really under-researched. There just aren't many people that have the expertise in the platform required for security research. And most of the people who do have expertise in the platform are often oblivious to technologies outside of the mainframe. (If you've ever dealt with mainframe people, you might know what I am talking about.) It's unfortunate, but too oft…
Mainframes connected to the Internet
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#13For the security researchers out there, mainframes are really under-researched. There just aren't many people that have the expertise in the platform required for security research. And most of the people who do have expertise in the platform are often oblivious to technologies outside of the mainframe. (If you've ever dealt with mainframe people, you might know what I am talking about.) It's unfortunate, but too oft…
The difficulty I see in trying to get involved with mainframes is that I can't physically tinker with one to get those "aha" moments.
Up until a few years ago, there was no legal way to run z/OS on hardware that wasn't a million dollar hunk of iron from IBM. IBM has since made a product called Rational Developer and Test Suite [0] available. With it, you get an emulator and a licensed copy of z/OS that you can run on x86. Except it's $9,500 / year.
The only saving grace is an open source project called Hercules [1] which emulates the z/Architecture. If you don't mind breaking some copyright laws, there is no technical reason why you can't download a copy of z/OS and run it under Hercules. But good luck finding the latest version. Want to test your research against the latest maintenance levels? Good luck.
[0]: http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/ratideveandtesten...
[1]: http://www.hercules-390.eu/
[2]: http://mainframed767.tumblr.com/post/40836059586/instruction...
Re: Mainframes connected to the Internet
#14How do I connect to one of these on linux or OSX?
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#15No Gibsons?
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#16No Gibsons?
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#17For the security researchers out there, mainframes are really under-researched. There just aren't many people that have the expertise in the platform required for security research. And most of the people who do have expertise in the platform are often oblivious to technologies outside of the mainframe. (If you've ever dealt with mainframe people, you might know what I am talking about.) It's unfortunate, but too oft…
So, it all adds up to a platform that should be very easy to smash and have literally decades worth of vulnerabilities built in. Should be some horrid design decisions in there, too, which might not be just a patch job. Mainframe hacking is literally a goldmine people should get into. Plus, those that prefer a boring, 8a-5p job with good pay and excellent job security will benefit from learning mainframe (or COBOL). Do the daily grind, play with shit on the test/dev partitions (LPARS?), and have fun hacking after work.
And you're right that the Redbooks are good. My only disagreement is that, if looking for mainframe, the SEO actually is too good in that all I get are Redbooks and IBM articles. That's when I'm looking for independent assessments of it. It's like Google wanted to drown me in their shit while I was actually looking for an independent assessment of Channel I/O, TCO, etc. Found some of it but it was work.
EDIT: Only thing that confused me was when the presentation said he bought a mainframe. How the hell did he buy a mainframe? I thought you had to be rolling in cash to even get an entry-level model with z/OS and z/VM. Re-edit, I found two answers to that question for people with some cash and who want to hack mainframes. See below:
http://www.informationweek.com/ibm-debuts-lower-cost-$75000-...?
http://www.eweek.com/servers/new-ibm-zenterprise-bc12-entry-... (Says you can get one as low as $1,965 a month. Bet it can't do shit but that's affordable.)
Re: Mainframes connected to the Internet
#18Most of them seem to be interfaces to network switches.
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#19For the security researchers out there, mainframes are really under-researched. There just aren't many people that have the expertise in the platform required for security research. And most of the people who do have expertise in the platform are often oblivious to technologies outside of the mainframe. (If you've ever dealt with mainframe people, you might know what I am talking about.) It's unfortunate, but too oft…
I suspect it has to do with the price tag. For Windows/Linux, I can just install the system on a random PC I have lying around, or at least buy a PC for very little money (in the grand scheme of things). With mainframes, few companies have one just standing around for you to tinker with. If IBM were willing to license z/OS (and their other mainframe OSes) to run on Hercules for such purposes, that might go a long way. But so far they seem to have no interest in that.
Casual exploration of the platform becomes very hard when a small mainframe is... what? $/€ 100,000?
And the complexity of the platform encourages specialization. (Try asking a competent Windows/Linux guy a mainframe question, they will probably give you a blank stare as well. FWIW, I am a Windows/Linux guy, too, I just was lucky enough to have a brief stint in a mainframe team during my training.)