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Re: I am tech – Real stories from women in technology

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Post by zxcvvcxz »

kefka wrote: post #5

Why should I care about more social justice demagoguery? I couldn't care less if you have a penis, testicles, breasts, vagina, uterus, or whatever combinations of said organs this unique little butterfly has. "What have you done, and what are you working on?" are important to me. And auxiliary to that would be "What life happenings lead you to addressing those questions?". I'm also curious how they learned the skills…

Amen. I always thought the best way to make females, younger people, minorities, space cowboys, etc more comfortable at work was to just focus on the work.

In fact I've had a lot of minorities tell me that they don't like anything along the lines of affirmative action. It just makes them feel like imposters when they actually do succeed. And, surprise surprise, it makes other people feel resentful of them, even though they didn't choose to be in that situation.

Not treating anyone special has to be the fairest way to treat others.

Re: I am tech – Real stories from women in technology

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Post by normloman »

kefka wrote: post #5

Why should I care about more social justice demagoguery? I couldn't care less if you have a penis, testicles, breasts, vagina, uterus, or whatever combinations of said organs this unique little butterfly has. "What have you done, and what are you working on?" are important to me. And auxiliary to that would be "What life happenings lead you to addressing those questions?". I'm also curious how they learned the skills…

You shouldn't put an emphasis on gender. But the numbers and stories like these prove that most people do, even if unconsciously. All of us are subject to biases, and pretending like you're above this reeks of hubris.

Re: I am tech – Real stories from women in technology

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Post by jkot »

kefka wrote: post #10
jkot wrote: post #9

Hm, company behind such project could be a bit more diverse. Here is picture of their team: https://mixpanel.com/jobs/

Great idea... So they should start hiring women who don't have the skills over others (who happen to be male) that do. Wonderful suggestion. But I'm sure they can fake-make a few Social Media fluff positions for women to fill. It's what GitHub did.

Why so angry? If company in Bengalore can have 70% women engineers, it should not be a problem for well funded startup in US.

Re: I am tech – Real stories from women in technology

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Post by [deleted] »

jonnybgood wrote: post #7
ryanobjc wrote: post #2

One thing I have learned from my wonderful partner is stories like this can be incredibly alienating to women who don't fit into them. For example, the "all women get catcalled" - my partner notes that since she never gets catcalled, she must be too ugly. So what about the women who have an entirely different kind of experience? This article is a classic: https://medium.com/@maradydd/okay-feminism-its-time-we-had-a..…

You're correct. Something else that's noticable here is that they're all white women.

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Re: I am tech – Real stories from women in technology

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Post by sbarker »

normloman wrote: post #12
kefka wrote: post #5

Why should I care about more social justice demagoguery? I couldn't care less if you have a penis, testicles, breasts, vagina, uterus, or whatever combinations of said organs this unique little butterfly has. "What have you done, and what are you working on?" are important to me. And auxiliary to that would be "What life happenings lead you to addressing those questions?". I'm also curious how they learned the skills…

You shouldn't put an emphasis on gender. But the numbers and stories like these prove that most people do, even if unconsciously. All of us are subject to biases, and pretending like you're above this reeks of hubris.

So let he hire all college degree holding males and you can hire every colorful butterfly and lets see who succeeds at a hackathon.

Re: I am tech – Real stories from women in technology

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Post by EC1 »

jkot wrote: post #9

Hm, company behind such project could be a bit more diverse. Here is picture of their team: https://mixpanel.com/jobs/

What if that's their perfect team? Stop trying to force diversity for the sake of diversity. Some companies/teams are diverse, some aren't.

Re: I am tech – Real stories from women in technology

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Post by interactive_guy »

If you think this is misplaced, that they should just 'buckle down and work,' that silicon valley is a meritocracy or near enough and that the overwhelming number of people there (including, of course, you) deserve to be there because they are smarter and better than 'non-technical people who could have what you have if only the just tried...

Then maybe you should strongly consider that you are part of the problem.

Re: I am tech – Real stories from women in technology

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Post by crimsonalucard »

ryanobjc wrote: post #2

One thing I have learned from my wonderful partner is stories like this can be incredibly alienating to women who don't fit into them. For example, the "all women get catcalled" - my partner notes that since she never gets catcalled, she must be too ugly. So what about the women who have an entirely different kind of experience? This article is a classic: https://medium.com/@maradydd/okay-feminism-its-time-we-had-a..…

The page presents multiple stories from multiple perspectives to try to cover all experiences. From looking at the pictures, I'm positive at least one of the women on the front page probably doesn't get catcalled either, so your partner is covered.

Another thing I don't like about this page is that they are only focusing on Software Engineering as if it represents the entire world of "Technology" aka "Tech."

I'll have you know, there's a lot of "Technology" in the kitchen as well. For example: dishwasher and microwave.

Re: I am tech – Real stories from women in technology

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Post by no1ne »

eonw wrote: post #15

i am still struggling to understand how this is important, and why we should care. men have struggles just the same, this is like reverse sexism.

well said.. unless people start taking a stand against this, we will have intelligence dragged down and innovation and pioneering taken hostage.. as we have already in cases like that of Sir Tim Hunt etc
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