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Tell HN: Things I Learned about Credit Bureaus This Week

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Last week, 1 or more parties hacked my Equifax account, set up an account at TransUnion, and ran up charges on a cloned credit card in Brazil. To resolve this, I’ve interacted with the FTC, police, card issuer, and credit bureaus. Here’s what I learned about the credit bureaus:

1. Equifax has no escalation path for security breaches on weekends. Even if a breach potentially affects millions of accounts, there is no way to report it until Monday.

2. TransUnion has no ability to investigate hacks or security breaches. They can only generate a reference number for the customer to file a police report with. (Note that their top product category is Credit Management & Protection.)

3. TransUnion and Equifax do not cooperate on investigations. Despite evidence that suggests the same hacker was at work, neither credit union indicated any interest in even talking with the other.

4. If your TransUnion account is hacked, you will lose online access for life. You will never be able to download your credit report from TransUnion again, and can only get it via mail. For life.

5. Experian displays your mother’s maiden name on your profile page. There is no way to hide this, obscure your mother’s maiden name, or select a different security question.

6. Experian agents cannot view support ticket numbers or track tickets. Only a supervisor can access ticket numbers. Of course, that means you need to talk to a supervisor…

7. Equifax and Experian are extremely reluctant to generate a ticket or escalate to a supervisor. At Equifax, I requested to speak to a supervisor 7 times. At Experian, the agent awkwardly tried to resolve a CloudFlare server error by asking if I was using Internet Explorer. It felt endemic. I did not sense this at TransUnion.

This experience has eroded my naive confidence in the consumer credit system. The burden for prevention, monitoring, and remediation is borne almost entirely by the customer. This doesn’t seem right.

Re: Tell HN: Things I Learned about Credit Bureaus This Week

#2
I would welcome seeing this extended into a larger and more detailed article, or even a series of articles. Usually I'm a little skeptical of complaint stories because they often strain credulity but you seem to have approached this in a patient and methodical manner.

Re: Tell HN: Things I Learned about Credit Bureaus This Week

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To Europeans wondering what this is, these are companies that track every financial transaction of Americans in ways that would violate dozens of privacy laws outside the u.s., and have become the de facto source for determining credit risk, rather than a simple search of court records for open or pending debt issues.

Re: Tell HN: Things I Learned about Credit Bureaus This Week

#6
Condolences and goodluck, I too would like to see a series of articles on what you've learned, the conciseness of your writing is preferred to what I find in publications.

As an aside: Guess it's time to put a credit freeze / lock on my record so the scammers can't hijack things. Lame that the agencies can charge us for this self - protective measure.

Re: Tell HN: Things I Learned about Credit Bureaus This Week

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post #4

To Europeans wondering what this is, these are companies that track every financial transaction of Americans in ways that would violate dozens of privacy laws outside the u.s., and have become the de facto source for determining credit risk, rather than a simple search of court records for open or pending debt issues.

Err, Europe has credit bureaus too:

http://aei.pitt.edu/33375/1/ACCIS-Survey_FinalReport_withCov...

Jump to page 31 to see what is stored by the bureaus in each country.

Re: Tell HN: Things I Learned about Credit Bureaus This Week

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post #7
post #4

To Europeans wondering what this is, these are companies that track every financial transaction of Americans in ways that would violate dozens of privacy laws outside the u.s., and have become the de facto source for determining credit risk, rather than a simple search of court records for open or pending debt issues.

Err, Europe has credit bureaus too: http://aei.pitt.edu/33375/1/ACCIS-Survey_FinalReport_withCov... Jump to page 31 to see what is stored by the bureaus in each country.

I guess we're spoiled in Switzerland.

Re: Tell HN: Things I Learned about Credit Bureaus This Week

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Was it a CHASE card? I've seen reports of Compromised Chase credit cards on Flyertalk [1] and a couple of them mentioned use of a cloned card in Brazil. Edit: [1] http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chase-ultimate-rewards/168257...

It's a popular bank: https://www.chase.com/
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