F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by dvdyzag » Sat, May 23, 2015, 5:46 AM UTC

Re: F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by azinman2 » Sat, May 23, 2015, 6:40 AM UTC

Seems petty. Mozilla is one of the most pure open source projects out there in mission, ethos, and product. Addons are user choices, and trying to limit that choice is self defeating in free speech.

Re: F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by alrs » Sat, May 23, 2015, 6:47 AM UTC

Mozilla chose to become spyware, so they're booted out of F-Droid. This makes sense.

Re: F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by icebraining » Sat, May 23, 2015, 6:54 AM UTC

They aren't really dropping Firefox, they are just dropping the official build for a custom one: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.mozilla.fenn...

It's no different that Debian with Iceweasel.

Re: F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by __david__ » Sat, May 23, 2015, 6:55 AM UTC

alrs wrote: post #3

Mozilla chose to become spyware, so they're booted out of F-Droid. This makes sense.

When and in what way did Mozilla decide to become spyware?

Re: F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by alrs » Sat, May 23, 2015, 7:01 AM UTC

__david__ wrote: post #5

alrs wrote: post #3

Mozilla chose to become spyware, so they're booted out of F-Droid. This makes sense.

When and in what way did Mozilla decide to become spyware?

Yesterday.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/21/mozilla-will-soon-launch-sp...

Re: F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by icebraining » Sat, May 23, 2015, 7:03 AM UTC

alrs wrote: post #6

__david__ wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When and in what way did Mozilla decide to become spyware?

Yesterday. http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/21/mozilla-will-soon-launch-sp...

It doesn't actually send any of your data to anywhere; it runs locally in your browser, using history data it already has.

Re: F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by Sephr » Sat, May 23, 2015, 7:07 AM UTC

> Removed: Mediastreaming (requires non-free library: play-services)[1]

I understand removing EME and DRM support, but they are removing a feature simply because it only works when a certain closed source library is installed. Is graceful degradation somehow "below" them?

That's like banning packages that use .NET (when it was non-free) on NuGet. You can create open source code that supports proprietary libraries without having to compromise your morals, with the sane choice of graceful degradation when you absolutely need the library.

This seems like a very petty reason to completely remove video streaming support from their distribution of Firefox.

1. https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.mozilla.fenn...

Re: F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by parwell » Sat, May 23, 2015, 7:11 AM UTC

__david__ wrote: post #5

alrs wrote: post #3

Mozilla chose to become spyware, so they're booted out of F-Droid. This makes sense.

When and in what way did Mozilla decide to become spyware?

They're planning on implementing ads based on browsing history, although it's supposed to be without violating users' privacy, apparently.

Re: F-Droid Dropping Firefox

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Post by kkmickos » Sat, May 23, 2015, 7:25 AM UTC

azinman2 wrote: post #2

Seems petty. Mozilla is one of the most pure open source projects out there in mission, ethos, and product. Addons are user choices, and trying to limit that choice is self defeating in free speech.

Well, some things at Mozilla seem a bit odd.

A few weeks ago Nightly ended up having "Pocket" integrated, and rumour said it would replace Mozilla's own open source Sync plus the integrated Reader.

Addons will soon no longer be able to be installed unless approved by Mozilla. (Another walled garden. Sigh...)