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Poor Little Rich Women

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Re: Poor Little Rich Women

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A wildly unpopular view on why women behave this way was put forward by Esther Vilar's book "The Manipulated Man". It was written, when this kind of gender inequality was the norm, rather than something people in priviledged positions could afford. Arguably today there is noone forcing the women described in the article to behave this way, their actions and choices are their responsibility alone.

Re: Poor Little Rich Women

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The problem isn't that these women choose to be with men that provide for them economically. They have every right to do so and they shouldn't be shamed for it. Staying at home and raising kids is very hard and respectable work.

The bigger issue is that women are highly unlikely to be in the position that the men are in this story. There are many cultural barriers to entry for women to reach those positions if they so desire, despite their "prestigious post-graduate degrees". The hierarchies described in the stories only perpetuate this narrative.

*Edit: Spelling

Re: Poor Little Rich Women

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post #2

A wildly unpopular view on why women behave this way was put forward by Esther Vilar's book "The Manipulated Man". It was written, when this kind of gender inequality was the norm, rather than something people in priviledged positions could afford. Arguably today there is noone forcing the women described in the article to behave this way, their actions and choices are their responsibility alone.

You're not even trying to make a point, you're just flat denying these women are being oppressed, without any argument to back that up.

Is the oppression of women in America such a sensitive topic that you feel the need to reflexively deny it's happening whenever the subject crops up?

Re: Poor Little Rich Women

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I remember reading a feminist opinion piece that economic dependency should be equivalent to abuse, and thus should be treated in similar way we handle drug abuse or alcohol abuse. A adult with their health intact should support themselves, and choosing not to do so will put the person at higher risk for unbalanced relationships, lower self-esteem, and increase gender inequality.

Re: Poor Little Rich Women

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post #3

The problem isn't that these women choose to be with men that provide for them economically. They have every right to do so and they shouldn't be shamed for it. Staying at home and raising kids is very hard and respectable work. The bigger issue is that women are highly unlikely to be in the position that the men are in this story. There are many cultural barriers to entry for women to reach those positions if they s…

It would be interesting to know how life is structured for upper class in countries with much better gender parity in high-end jobs. Northern Europe maybe?

Maybe we'll find out it behaves more like upper middle class, and income extremes are rare.

Re: Poor Little Rich Women

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The sold themselves for their bed: let them lie in it. They've certainly managed to get a better price than many others who see marriage this way.

The question here is: why did they "sell" themself to someone of comparable stature instead of "buying" or "merging"?

They aren't some Cinderellas, they are highly educated and capable.

Re: Poor Little Rich Women

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post #2

A wildly unpopular view on why women behave this way was put forward by Esther Vilar's book "The Manipulated Man". It was written, when this kind of gender inequality was the norm, rather than something people in priviledged positions could afford. Arguably today there is noone forcing the women described in the article to behave this way, their actions and choices are their responsibility alone.

Definitely, they could opt out if they so choose.

That being said, perhaps it's a requirement in order to belong to the rich white boys club to act in this manner. The super-rich are generally connected enough not to need assurances into prestigious universities for their kids, and those poorer can't always afford a non-working mother, or to give out "performance" bonuses.

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