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The Grooveshark Settlement [pdf]

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Re: The Grooveshark Settlement [pdf]

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I'm curious to know what will happen with all the user data on their systems. There was a site floating around which allowed you to access your playlist information just by entering your account email. I assume that was old public data.

And with services like this, is there any threat to users who access 'illegal' material?

Re: The Grooveshark Settlement [pdf]

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post #3

I'm curious to know what will happen with all the user data on their systems. There was a site floating around which allowed you to access your playlist information just by entering your account email. I assume that was old public data. And with services like this, is there any threat to users who access 'illegal' material?

I thought I read that the site pulled the info from the browser's local storage.

EDIT: which they obviously shouldn't be able to do. So they probably scraped it, right.

Re: The Grooveshark Settlement [pdf]

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post #5
post #3

I'm curious to know what will happen with all the user data on their systems. There was a site floating around which allowed you to access your playlist information just by entering your account email. I assume that was old public data. And with services like this, is there any threat to users who access 'illegal' material?

I thought I read that the site pulled the info from the browser's local storage. EDIT: which they obviously shouldn't be able to do. So they probably scraped it, right.

A different domain can't possibly access the local storage for grooveshark.com right?

Re: The Grooveshark Settlement [pdf]

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought I read that the site pulled the info from the browser's local storage. EDIT: which they obviously shouldn't be able to do. So they probably scraped it, right.

A different domain can't possibly access the local storage for grooveshark.com right?

You are correct.

Re: The Grooveshark Settlement [pdf]

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post #7
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought I read that the site pulled the info from the browser's local storage. EDIT: which they obviously shouldn't be able to do. So they probably scraped it, right.

A different domain can't possibly access the local storage for grooveshark.com right?

Good point. People discussed different ways to get to the parts stored in localstorage, but that obviously only should work locally. Since Groovebackup got shutdown as well we can't check what they did.

Re: The Grooveshark Settlement [pdf]

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Two thoughts on this.

First:

I was an occasional user of Grooveshark, and whenever I used the service (which had a brilliant UI, by the way) I found myself wondering how they could still be operating, given that they weren't licensed by the major labels. It felt like Napster in a web app, only more centralized (and thus, easier to take down, one would think).

Well, the answer seems to be that they have been fighting the major labels in the court this whole time (~5 years). Unlike maybe everyone else who has faced up against the major labels, Grooveshark forced them to fight. When the labels didn't give them a licensing deal, and told them to stop operating, Grooveshark responded, "Make us."

They created their tech, built a loyal following, grew their business, all the while fighting this lawsuit. In the end, the only thing that stopped them from pursuing their vision was a judges' order. This settlement seems to be a judge-mediated settlement of only the damages portion of the trial after liability had been established. It seems that the judge ruled against Grooveshark by summary judgement in September, which means they have known for more than 7 months that this was inevitable. They shut down their service 2 days ago.

People have called Grooveshark "shady", and many people believe that their business model was "illegal". Both adjectives may be accurate descriptions. I think the best adjective to describe these guys, however, is "gutsy".

Second:

The front-end system that Grooveshark built, which is the best that I have used for music playback and discovery, is now jointly owned by the major labels. They cannot possibly be short-sighted enough just to throw that away. Will we see Grooveshark resurrected as a label-owed alternative to Spotify, et al? Will they try to maintain any portion of the Grooveshark organization, especially the engineering team? Again, they would be foolish not to try, although maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

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