JQuery is dead
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JQuery is dead
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#2So you replace 4 lines of jQuery with 40 lines of barely readable Angular (for somebody who hasn't worked with it), and declare jQuery dead?
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#3You realize Angular depends on jQuery right? And that extending Angular with new functionality involves using jQuery...
jQuery is not dead, and until DOM apis converge across browser vendors and become 100x easier to use it will remain active.
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#4So you replace 4 lines of jQuery with 40 lines of barely readable Angular (for somebody who hasn't worked with it), and declare jQuery dead?
His example is terrible but his conclusion is sound (imo):
> Yeah, jQuery is dead not because frameworks make you write better code - we know they don’t - but because your framework does DOM manipulation better than you ever could.
If what I need to accomplish can be done in 4 lines of jQuery, I use jQuery. When I know there's going to be a ton of DOM manipulation, I reach for a suitable framework/library because I know the mess I'll end up in if I try scaling up the 4 lines of jQuery to handle a complex web application.
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#5You realize Angular depends on jQuery right? And that extending Angular with new functionality involves using jQuery... jQuery is not dead, and until DOM apis converge across browser vendors and become 100x easier to use it will remain active.
I'm pretty sure you can use Angular without jQuery and even without using the jQuery-lite thing they have in it. I've moved on from Angular now but I definitely didn't rely on jQuery at all during my end of my Angular days.
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#6This article is long on condescension and short on enlightenment.
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#7This is ridiculous linkbait with no substance. Man alive, as if there's ONE use case in the world for front-end development!
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#8You realize Angular depends on jQuery right? And that extending Angular with new functionality involves using jQuery... jQuery is not dead, and until DOM apis converge across browser vendors and become 100x easier to use it will remain active.
I'm pretty sure you can use Angular without jQuery and even without using the jQuery-lite thing they have in it. I've moved on from Angular now but I definitely didn't rely on jQuery at all during my end of my Angular days.
Incorrect: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/blob/master/src/jqLite...
For all intents and purposes, jqLite should be considered equivalent to jQuery for my argument.
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#9How...is this on the front page?
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#10I don't think raw jQuery is often used to build full dynamic frontends and SPAs. It's typically used to bolt on effects, transitions and asynchronous data fetching into otherwise statically generated server-side web pages.
Although SPAs, frontend frameworks and the model of communicating microservices is gaining lots of traction and visibility for web applications (particularly paid services that replace former desktop apps), plain old server-side CRUD that renders template variables from a data model is still going to be the dominant paradigm on the web at large, not to mention more of a conceptual neat fit to begin with.
In some ways I predict there will be a sort of resurgence in server-side CRUD frameworks again as being the hot trend you read about on HN, once people found out that you can easily build real-time, reactive UIs without having to context switch and directly deal with the often subpar client-side interfaces. Furthermore, the act of generating HTML and JavaScript from native language constructs will be lauded as a great time-saver, not to mention giving the same benefits of the so-called "isomorphism" that platforms like Node are hailed for. For examples of these concepts, see the Nitrogen and N2O frameworks (both Erlang).