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Workers Seeking Productivity in a Pill Are Abusing A.D.H.D. Drugs

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Re: Workers Seeking Productivity in a Pill Are Abusing A.D.H.D. Drugs

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And these practices are in a way unfair against the rest of us workers!

> Most users who were interviewed said they got pills by feigning symptoms of A.D.H.D., a disorder marked by severe impulsivity and inattention, to physicians who casually write prescriptions without proper evaluations.

And thus these practices disturb statistics about the true prevalence of ADHD.

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Something will replace coffee eventually. I refuse to believe that technology will never find a better productivity enhancer, with near-zero side effects like coffee.

Adderall is not the answer as these journalists like to claim though. It's useless for basically anything other than very rare usage and has difficult to manage loss of productivity during withdraw. It has an incredibly fast tolerance buildup. If your work requires steady output instead of rare bursts, it's questionable whether it even surpasses coffee because of these downsides.

Re: Workers Seeking Productivity in a Pill Are Abusing A.D.H.D. Drugs

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Interesting that there was no mention of Modafinil.

I believe that one of the most "abused" drugs for "productivity" is currently Modafinil, far more powerful than Adderall and without all those side effects.

Of course, long term side effects are unknown.

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>>> Investors in her health-technology start-up Running a health start-up and popping Aderalls like there is no tomorrow does not seem a good fit.

Hopefully it's a health startup promoting the legalization of stimulants and enhancers :-)

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Off topic, but I was diagnosed with ADHD about 10 years ago, been taking methylphenidate ER ever since. Throughout the years I have had over ten different doctors at the same location and I informed each doctor that I was a marijuana user.

Recently my latest doctor decided to drug test me, before asking any questions about my usage or even looking at my file he stated he would no longer prescribe me my medicine because I use marijuana and "those two don't interact well together". When I repeatedly asked him to back up his opinion with actual evidence (studies), he repeatedly refused. He would not even explain the reaction that marijuana had with ADHD medication. After less than three minutes I was asked to leave his office. No discussion about my condition was allowed.

I'm aware that the doctors opinion is what goes and he has all the power, but I feel I've been wronged. I really need this medicine and it's probably does more harm to kick me off cold turkey without even looking at my file than to let me smoke marijuana with it, and I feel that his opinion is based more on politics than rigorous medical study.

I have a feeling if I was an alcohol drinker he would have no problem. So it goes.

Re: Workers Seeking Productivity in a Pill Are Abusing A.D.H.D. Drugs

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post #4

Something will replace coffee eventually. I refuse to believe that technology will never find a better productivity enhancer, with near-zero side effects like coffee. Adderall is not the answer as these journalists like to claim though. It's useless for basically anything other than very rare usage and has difficult to manage loss of productivity during withdraw. It has an incredibly fast tolerance buildup. If your w…

Ephedrine and dextroamphetamine are already better than coffee, in small dosages. Sadly, it's gonna be a long time before they're legal, if ever.

Re: Workers Seeking Productivity in a Pill Are Abusing A.D.H.D. Drugs

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Off topic, but I was diagnosed with ADHD about 10 years ago, been taking methylphenidate ER ever since. Throughout the years I have had over ten different doctors at the same location and I informed each doctor that I was a marijuana user. Recently my latest doctor decided to drug test me, before asking any questions about my usage or even looking at my file he stated he would no longer prescribe me my medicine becau…

That is strange. My doctor finds no problem with my cannabis consumption while taking methylphenidate.

I don't find they interact in a negative way, however I find too much coffee + methylphenidate is very counter productive. The caffine stimulation seems to totally overwhelm the focused stimulation of the methylphenidate, and not in a good way.

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And these practices are in a way unfair against the rest of us workers! > Most users who were interviewed said they got pills by feigning symptoms of A.D.H.D., a disorder marked by severe impulsivity and inattention, to physicians who casually write prescriptions without proper evaluations. And thus these practices disturb statistics about the true prevalence of ADHD.

>And these practices are in a way unfair against the rest of us workers!

This raises interesting philosophical questions about work in general. If work is inherently valuable, isn't anything that enhances it a good thing (assume lack of side effects for simplicity)? Is it "unfair" if a doctor/scientist/programmer uses a product to be more productive? Very few of us are formally competitive athletes, and special rules apply to those of us who are. I think it's unfair that some people can afford secretaries, accountants, editors, private schools, etc., those seem much less fair than ADHD medicine.

One of my childhood heroes, the great mathematician Paul Erdos, was a famous amphetamine user, does that mean the wonderful contributions he made to our understanding of the universe are "unfair"?

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