United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
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Re: United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
#2We live in shitty knee-jerk reactionary times, but did anyone else see his tweet at the time? At best, it seemed in poor taste. At worst, the outcome seems depressingly predictable.
I don't know what I'm trying to contribute here, except that whilst I have no problem with EFF working on this, their article here seems overly shrill and over-reactionary at how shrill and over-reactionary the airline was in their response to what (admittedly, in hindsight) could have easily been interpreted as a threat by an over-zealous corporate drone blind to smily-face emoticons.
Re: United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
#3The tweet in question: https://twitter.com/Sidragon1/status/588433855184375808
Re: United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
#4We live in shitty knee-jerk reactionary times, but did anyone else see his tweet at the time? At best, it seemed in poor taste. At worst, the outcome seems depressingly predictable. I don't know what I'm trying to contribute here, except that whilst I have no problem with EFF working on this, their article here seems overly shrill and over-reactionary at how shrill and over-reactionary the airline was in their respon…
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Re: United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
#5We live in shitty knee-jerk reactionary times, but did anyone else see his tweet at the time? At best, it seemed in poor taste. At worst, the outcome seems depressingly predictable. I don't know what I'm trying to contribute here, except that whilst I have no problem with EFF working on this, their article here seems overly shrill and over-reactionary at how shrill and over-reactionary the airline was in their respon…
Seems to be a decent warning to security experts on how are you going to be treated in such situations, and a remainder to act accordingly.
Re: United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
#6We live in shitty knee-jerk reactionary times, but did anyone else see his tweet at the time? At best, it seemed in poor taste. At worst, the outcome seems depressingly predictable. I don't know what I'm trying to contribute here, except that whilst I have no problem with EFF working on this, their article here seems overly shrill and over-reactionary at how shrill and over-reactionary the airline was in their respon…
Don't imply you're going to harm an aircraft when you're on it. Also, airlines, don't imply you're going to allow someone to travel when you're not.
Re: United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
#7We live in shitty knee-jerk reactionary times, but did anyone else see his tweet at the time? At best, it seemed in poor taste. At worst, the outcome seems depressingly predictable. I don't know what I'm trying to contribute here, except that whilst I have no problem with EFF working on this, their article here seems overly shrill and over-reactionary at how shrill and over-reactionary the airline was in their respon…
This person was an absolute clown.
I think the infosec community needs to grow up. We all hate when legislators use the word 'cyber.' Title 18 is a mess. The new computer crime proposals are worse. Every couple of years we get the occasional story about licensing security professionals. It is because of exactly this type of clownish behavior.
There are consequences for the attention seeking type of behavior. This idiot is catnip for government regulation.
It isn't exactly his fault though. Our community has been doing this to garner press attention for the sake of the attention. He is following the pattern that has long been set. Stunt hacking scares the shit out of normal people. Eventually people will demand regulatory intervention.
Re: United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
#8We live in shitty knee-jerk reactionary times, but did anyone else see his tweet at the time? At best, it seemed in poor taste. At worst, the outcome seems depressingly predictable. I don't know what I'm trying to contribute here, except that whilst I have no problem with EFF working on this, their article here seems overly shrill and over-reactionary at how shrill and over-reactionary the airline was in their respon…
Don't imply you're going to harm an aircraft when you're on it. Also, airlines, don't imply you're going to allow someone to travel when you're not.
Yeah. Don't say:
This plane has ... shall we play with it and do ?
On the other hand, maybe this would go down better:
Oh god, this plane has . That does not make me feel safe. What if someone did ? D:Re: United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't imply you're going to harm an aircraft when you're on it. Also, airlines, don't imply you're going to allow someone to travel when you're not.
Yeah. Don't say: This plane has ... shall we play with it and do ? It's just asking for trouble. On the other hand, maybe this would go down better: Oh god, this plane has . That does not make me feel safe. What if someone did ? D:
(Using four spaces and long lines makes those lines unreadable on mobile.)
> Oh god, this plane has . That does not make me feel safe. What if someone did ? D:
No! There are plenty of examples of people who stumbled over a security vulnerability, and who responsibly, confidentially, reported those vulns to the companies, and who then faced scary legal action.
I agree that the actions taken against him are far too severe; and that there should be a way for people to talk about security flaws without facing this level of harassment.
Re: United Airlines Stops Researcher Who Tweeted about Airplane Network Security
#10We live in shitty knee-jerk reactionary times, but did anyone else see his tweet at the time? At best, it seemed in poor taste. At worst, the outcome seems depressingly predictable. I don't know what I'm trying to contribute here, except that whilst I have no problem with EFF working on this, their article here seems overly shrill and over-reactionary at how shrill and over-reactionary the airline was in their respon…
This isn't exactly a new phenomenon - even before 9/11, a careless joke at baggage check-in ("Did you pack your own luggage today, Sir?" - "No, my wife probably put a bomb in there.") would often result in the joke not being recognised or treated as such. Said jokester gets taken to one side, scrutinised by the boys in blue, and eventually told that they "will not be flying today, sir."
In the age of Twitter, such hijinks are amplified further due to their world-readable nature. The problem with innocent, uncomfortable-but-well-intentioned jokes is that you have to consider how it will play with someone whose job it is to flag up and respond to any and all threats, no matter how credible.
Fundamentally it's your joke versus a member of staff who is not in a position to deviate from the procedure and brush it aside.
Plus, who'd want to be the guy who gets their face on the news after an incident because they ignored a threat and thought it was a joke? They won't, and often CAN'T, take that risk - they are simply not in a position where they are allowed to do so.
As you say, we live in shitty knee-jerk reactionary tines, but whatever the rights and wrongs, in this kind of situation it's prudent to moderate one's comedy appropriately.