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What the Fourth Industrial Revolution Looks Like

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Re: What the Fourth Industrial Revolution Looks Like

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> Welcome to life after the fourth industrial revolution, where all of the objects you use on a day to day basis are custom-made and constantly talking to one another for your benefit.

Maybe, if they talk through an API filtering proxy of the user's nomination, which can determine benefit based on personal data history that is unavailable to partially-trusted objects.

Re: What the Fourth Industrial Revolution Looks Like

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The "you" in the article only applies to the likely extremely small percentage of the population still in the middle class and employed. The vast majority of the population will be unemployed, living in cardboard boxes down by the river, at least in between wars and revolutions requiring cannon fodder. And a very small "end of the roman republic" style class will own absolutely everything so its not going to be "your house" from the article, everything will be rented and monetized down to the tee shirt from the article. One big company store.

"Maximizing the perks of the fourth industrial revolution will require massive cooperation across corporate boundaries"

Obvious OP has never worked at an actual megacorp job. The best analogy I can provide to my experience is its very much like being an ancient gladiator without the death and blood. I fight the other departments for my faction because anyone who stops fighting and sabotage will be consumed cannibal style by the non-pacifists. Normally this would result in a less screwed up firm wiping out the megacorp, but once the megacorp (and its friends) own the government and the financial system, that will be made impossible. Its not bad. Its not literal gladiatorial combat so its not physically risky or stressful, and the business model and job are extremely stable. It superficially seems like it would be boring to never really do anything, yet, oddly enough, with a lack of micromanagement comes liberation, exciting new tools and techniques, thus better fighters who almost accidentally get to play with exciting new stuff. Those who are about to die salute you, Caesar. Well, not die for another 40 years or so, hopefully, and my manager is pretty cool and her name isn't Caesar. But same general idea, corporate spam is just SPQR and all that. We haven't quite figured out the paperless office yet, for example. So I wouldn't worry about this for some decades / centuries. We did recently upgrade from XP to 7 on the desktops, change does happen, although very slowly (LOL at the 2025, maybe 2125)

Re: What the Fourth Industrial Revolution Looks Like

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"Yet rather than putting people out of work, this will supposedly free them up for more creative, skilled tasks, rather than subjecting them to menial, low-skilled work"

This is a lie.

It pretends that the factory owner will continue to pay the wages of existing employees and also the acquisition-and-maintenance of new CPS machines. Simply a lie.

It pretends that the employees will be free "for more creative skilled tasks"... this is almost insulting... Previous employees will be fired and in their place will be a small team of highly specialized technicians to control the machines. There is no hope for previous-employees to be kept, they will basically be replaced by machines - please don't create illusions.

The truth is that this means layoffs and a new wave of unemployment, for the benefit of the corporate efficiency though machines highly intelligent.

The blame should not fall on the technology itself, but instead on the politics which allow the technology to be used to boost financial results without taking into account the social-costs of it.

I believe this should be regulated to create socially-owned factories to solve nation-wide necessities.

Re: What the Fourth Industrial Revolution Looks Like

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This is only half the picture. This sort of automation is welcome and should be pursued. But it won't free people but enable to take on bigger, wider, never imagined before challenges. There will be products which none of us are thinking of right now. Solutions (and also problems)

Re: What the Fourth Industrial Revolution Looks Like

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post #3

The "you" in the article only applies to the likely extremely small percentage of the population still in the middle class and employed. The vast majority of the population will be unemployed, living in cardboard boxes down by the river, at least in between wars and revolutions requiring cannon fodder. And a very small "end of the roman republic" style class will own absolutely everything so its not going to be "your…

> The vast majority of the population will be unemployed, living in cardboard boxes down by the river

Who is going to consume all the goods that the machines produce? Who is going to buy these, and how?

However much you might not like factory owners, they are not likely to deliberately shoot themselves in the foot.

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The most interesting part of the article seems to be in the video in which it is mentioned that part of the goal is to create easily reconfigurable assembly lines that "fit together like lego bricks". It is also mentioned in the article that many of the manufacturers that have already implemented these automated and configurable production processes are in the business of producing the machines used in other assembly plants.

Could it be possible to produce a set of standardized manufacturing machines that can be swapped out or reconfigured to produce different end products? This would require an incredibly high degree of automation, but that level of automation is the stated goal of this movement. I don't see how you could feasibly do it today but given some combination of rapid additive manufacturing, conductive ink circuit printing, and some future generation of baxter like manufacturing robots capable of handling pick and place as well as assembly or other more general tasks could move us in that direction.

If this is implemented it might be used for simple customization for individual use. Smartphones whose dimensions are tailored to your hands or usage patterns. A flatscreen designed to match the aesthetics of the room in which it will be placed and integrating your preferred console or other gadgetry. Mass produced prosthetic limbs designed to perfectly match their owner. Hololens' in whatever style you choose so you feel like less of a space cadet while wearing them. Driverless cars geared towards your lifestyle and family size. It'd essentially be the end of the 'model' as we know it for products. Just provide your body scan and bio-socio-informatic data along with your credit card number and you can expect a drone delivery in the next 3 hours.

Re: What the Fourth Industrial Revolution Looks Like

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"Yet rather than putting people out of work, this will supposedly free them up for more creative, skilled tasks, rather than subjecting them to menial, low-skilled work" This is a lie. It pretends that the factory owner will continue to pay the wages of existing employees and also the acquisition-and-maintenance of new CPS machines. Simply a lie. It pretends that the employees will be free "for more creative skilled…

>I believe this should be regulated to create socially-owned factories to solve nation-wide necessities.

Which industries comprise the list of necessities?

Re: What the Fourth Industrial Revolution Looks Like

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post #3

The "you" in the article only applies to the likely extremely small percentage of the population still in the middle class and employed. The vast majority of the population will be unemployed, living in cardboard boxes down by the river, at least in between wars and revolutions requiring cannon fodder. And a very small "end of the roman republic" style class will own absolutely everything so its not going to be "your…

> The vast majority of the population will be unemployed, living in cardboard boxes down by the river Who is going to consume all the goods that the machines produce? Who is going to buy these, and how? However much you might not like factory owners, they are not likely to deliberately shoot themselves in the foot.

Why do you think the factory owners care about people consuming his production? What will those people offer him for it?
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