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The Persistence of Sects

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Re: The Persistence of Sects

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Post by gpvos »

Interesting, I get:

    The requested URL was rejected. If you think this is an error, please contact the webmaster.

    Your support ID is: 13078553747997112974
Anyone know what could cause this? I have been getting this from one other web site (the web comic www.sinfest.net) when accessing it from home, but not from work.

Re: The Persistence of Sects

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Post by th0br0 »

gpvos wrote: post #2

Interesting, I get: The requested URL was rejected. If you think this is an error, please contact the webmaster. Your support ID is: 13078553747997112974 Anyone know what could cause this? I have been getting this from one other web site (the web comic www.sinfest.net) when accessing it from home, but not from work.

Did you check whether your work IP is blacklisted? See http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2359542

Re: The Persistence of Sects

#4

Post by nitrogen »

If you are looking for a definition of sect, as I was, to figure out what the paper is about, it's a few paragraphs down:

"...first, that each of them exists in a state of tension with the wider society; second, that each imposes tests of merit on would-be members; third, that each exercises stern discipline, regulating the declared beliefs and the life habits of members and prescribing and operating sanctions for those who deviate, including the possibility of expulsion; and fourth, that each demands sustained and total commitment from its members, and the subordination, and perhaps even the exclusion of all other interests."

Re: The Persistence of Sects

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Post by jloughry »

gpvos wrote: post #2

Interesting, I get: The requested URL was rejected. If you think this is an error, please contact the webmaster. Your support ID is: 13078553747997112974 Anyone know what could cause this? I have been getting this from one other web site (the web comic www.sinfest.net) when accessing it from home, but not from work.

Do you run a Tor relay? If your IP address is listed as being such, you'll see that message on lots of web sites. Apple's support site (although not their store, interestingly) and phdcomics.com are other places I've run into it. If you have a static IP address on your home router, don't ever start a Tor relay at home, or you'll poison it, evidently, forever. :-(

Re: The Persistence of Sects

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Post by tragomaskhalos »

nitrogen wrote: post #4

If you are looking for a definition of sect, as I was, to figure out what the paper is about, it's a few paragraphs down: "...first, that each of them exists in a state of tension with the wider society; second, that each imposes tests of merit on would-be members; third, that each exercises stern discipline, regulating the declared beliefs and the life habits of members and prescribing and operating sanctions for th…

This is sort of a counterpoint to #3, but an important litmus for a cult is that it is very difficult to leave voluntarily.

Certainly in the case of the JWs, an individual exiting the cult has to contend not only with the fear and uncertainty preceding their decision to quit, but with subsequently being completely ostracised by family members who are still members. All of this acts as powerful psychological coercion to remain even when one no longer believes in the cult's message, and makes escapees enormously vulnerable.

Re: The Persistence of Sects

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Post by nitrogen »

jloughry wrote: post #5
gpvos wrote: post #2

Interesting, I get: The requested URL was rejected. If you think this is an error, please contact the webmaster. Your support ID is: 13078553747997112974 Anyone know what could cause this? I have been getting this from one other web site (the web comic www.sinfest.net) when accessing it from home, but not from work.

Do you run a Tor relay? If your IP address is listed as being such, you'll see that message on lots of web sites. Apple's support site (although not their store, interestingly) and phdcomics.com are other places I've run into it. If you have a static IP address on your home router, don't ever start a Tor relay at home, or you'll poison it, evidently, forever. :-(

Is it a relay, exit node, or both that will get one blacklisted?

Re: The Persistence of Sects

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Post by gpvos »

jloughry wrote: post #5
gpvos wrote: post #2

Interesting, I get: The requested URL was rejected. If you think this is an error, please contact the webmaster. Your support ID is: 13078553747997112974 Anyone know what could cause this? I have been getting this from one other web site (the web comic www.sinfest.net) when accessing it from home, but not from work.

Do you run a Tor relay? If your IP address is listed as being such, you'll see that message on lots of web sites. Apple's support site (although not their store, interestingly) and phdcomics.com are other places I've run into it. If you have a static IP address on your home router, don't ever start a Tor relay at home, or you'll poison it, evidently, forever. :-(

I have run a Tor relay in the past, yes. Although I have been getting this error only recently. And indeed phdcomics.com gives the same error. Interestingly, I get support.apple.com in Russian!?
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