NY Cops Used ‘Stingray’ Spy Tool 46 Times Without Warrant
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Re: NY Cops Used ‘Stingray’ Spy Tool 46 Times Without Warrant
#2Isn't the whole idea to use it without having to get a warrant?
Re: NY Cops Used ‘Stingray’ Spy Tool 46 Times Without Warrant
#346 times in 51 months ... 1 time (at the end of the data collection period) with slightly less than a warrant. Not much 'judicial review' here.
Re: NY Cops Used ‘Stingray’ Spy Tool 46 Times Without Warrant
#4All totally illegal by the way. Our constitution is being violated and no one cares.
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#5At this point, we need more details than that to have any idea what happened. You don't get to use "times" as a word in this context anymore when one "time" can include getting an email service to provide an entire database dump for all customers.
"46 times" could well mean "Set up 46 separate devices throughout the county and collected all calls for four years", or perhaps "Left one device running for 46 contiguous months in the center of town", with the way these people work.
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#6At this point, we need more details than that to have any idea what happened. You don't get to use "times" as a word in this context anymore when one "time" can include getting an email service to provide an entire database dump for all customers. "46 times" could well mean "Set up 46 separate devices throughout the county and collected all calls for four years", or perhaps "Left one device running for 46 contiguous…
You are correct. The explanation is vague at best. The Sheriff Timothy B. Howard straight up LIED to the public.
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#8At this point, we need more details than that to have any idea what happened. You don't get to use "times" as a word in this context anymore when one "time" can include getting an email service to provide an entire database dump for all customers. "46 times" could well mean "Set up 46 separate devices throughout the county and collected all calls for four years", or perhaps "Left one device running for 46 contiguous…
Sorry to be so flippant, but you know how to click links, right? http://www.nyclu.org/files/20150331-ComplaintInfoReports-000...
Most incidents read like, "ASSIST TOWN OF HAMBURG POLICE WITH CELL TRACKING REGARDING OUTBACK ROBBERY ON 09/26/2011, MCKINLEY PKWY, HAMBURG, NY"
Some others are even more vague: "ASSISTING NYS POLICE, HOMOCIDE[sic]"
These give the impression that the use is targeted and for a limited time, but of course one can never be sure. I'd like to know:
* For how long was the device used in each incident?
* How was it deployed?
* How many other cellular devices were picked up?
* What happened to the irrelevant data collected?
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#9As a couple commenters on a related Ars article[1] point out, it seems weird that police would drop cases rather than reveal stingray details if it were just a matter of scooping up voice, text, and location data using a fake transmitter. Those things are pretty obvious, so why all the secrecy?
[1] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/04/fbi-would-rather-...
Re: NY Cops Used ‘Stingray’ Spy Tool 46 Times Without Warrant
#10That's it?