A scheme to lower engineers’ wages
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A scheme to lower engineers’ wages
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#3"How about the presidential race of 2016? Hillary...."
On the Republican side, Ted Cruz wants to increase the H-1B cap to 300,000/year. All of the other Republicans who look like they might throw their hat in the ring are immigration boosters, although I'm not aware of any of them having positions on H-1B visas.
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#4The worst part of importing workers via H1-b is the indentured servant aspect. That makes the H1-b employee more attractive than a comparably-qualified American earning the same salary.
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#5The worst part of importing workers via H1-b is the indentured servant aspect. That makes the H1-b employee more attractive than a comparably-qualified American earning the same salary.
H1-b is also a lot more expensive to hire because of the processing and many companies start the greencard process for H1-bs, which is even more expensive and highly scrutinized.
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#6Once when debating the poor quality of programmers with a friend, I said "You know how dumb the average programmer is? By definition, half are even dumber!"
He responded, "Only half? Do you mean the mean, the median, or the mode?"
And there's the rub. There may not be a shortage of engineers, but there's a serious shortage of good engineers. And I'm not sure more H1B will solve that problem.
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#7> A 2013 study by the Economic Policy Institute showed that American universities graduate 50 percent more students in computer, information science, and engineering each year than are hired in those fields
This is a reasoning flaw: companies don't need people who graduate from certain fields. They need people with certain skills that are difficult to attain. A degree in those fields is correlated with the skills in question, but it is very far from a predictor.
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#8The worst part of importing workers via H1-b is the indentured servant aspect. That makes the H1-b employee more attractive than a comparably-qualified American earning the same salary.
H1-b is also a lot more expensive to hire because of the processing and many companies start the greencard process for H1-bs, which is even more expensive and highly scrutinized.
But if a company has a high turnover rate with domestic hires, the added cost may become marginal compared to the cost of constantly hiring.
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#9I am a member of the IEEE Computer society (and not the ACM) precisely because IEEE opposes H-1B expansion. This is not necessarily a "litmus" test for me, but it is a sign that the IEEE is sticking up for engineers and not the financiers of tech industry.
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#10" How about the presidential race of 2016? Hillary.... " On the Republican side, Ted Cruz wants to increase the H-1B cap to 300,000/year. All of the other Republicans who look like they might throw their hat in the ring are immigration boosters, although I'm not aware of any of them having positions on H-1B visas.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/07/rand-paul-mets-...
> Rand has previously said all of the country's illegal immigrants should receive work permits and mentioned that he did not vote for the Senate's comprehensive amnesty bill because it did not award enough high-tech visas.