IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
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Re: IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
#2So does that mean we can finally stop listening to Cringely altogether? I am an IBM employee and I can tell you a lot of my fellow IBMers had a really bad week-end because of his ridiculous claims.
For context see previous discussion on the 110000 employee layoff that won't happen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8944637
Re: IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
#3Project Chrome? It's hard to fathom that a tech company would name their layoff program after a competitor's technology. That just strains credulity. If that part is true, it's a sign of bad things in the company.
Re: IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
#4So does that mean we can finally stop listening to Cringely altogether? I am an IBM employee and I can tell you a lot of my fellow IBMers had a really bad week-end because of his ridiculous claims. For context see previous discussion on the 110000 employee layoff that won't happen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8944637
As another IBM employee, I second that. His rumor caused panic for a lot of people.
Re: IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
#5Project Chrome? It's hard to fathom that a tech company would name their layoff program after a competitor's technology. That just strains credulity. If that part is true, it's a sign of bad things in the company.
First off, it's just a name, not really a big deal nor would it really be a sign of anything. Secondly, if your requirement is "not a competitor's technology" then practically every single word would be excluded because it would have been used, at some point or another, by one of the hundreds of thousands of competitors IBM has and has had.
Re: IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
#6So does that mean we can finally stop listening to Cringely altogether? I am an IBM employee and I can tell you a lot of my fellow IBMers had a really bad week-end because of his ridiculous claims. For context see previous discussion on the 110000 employee layoff that won't happen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8944637
I am suspect that IBM would layoff so many at once even if it were their intention to reorganize. The negative press involved with such a huge record breaking layoff would just add insult to injury. It would be much more likely to be 100,000+ over a length of time.
Regardless I am sorry for the terror that this week must be based on this potentially unethical news article.
Re: IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
#7So does that mean we can finally stop listening to Cringely altogether? I am an IBM employee and I can tell you a lot of my fellow IBMers had a really bad week-end because of his ridiculous claims. For context see previous discussion on the 110000 employee layoff that won't happen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8944637
I wonder if IBM would change their plan based on this leaking. If he really had this totally and completely wrong, then of course that is very irresponsible of him to say.
I don't see how you can stop listening to Cringely altogether though. They did abandon their $20/share EPS plan, which was a pretty epic change. The claims about global services having I would like to see IBM do well, it makes me angry to see big companies squander their history and abuse their people.
Re: IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
#8So does that mean we can finally stop listening to Cringely altogether? I am an IBM employee and I can tell you a lot of my fellow IBMers had a really bad week-end because of his ridiculous claims. For context see previous discussion on the 110000 employee layoff that won't happen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8944637
I feel lucky like yourself of being in one of the divisions with massive growth.
I don't think people appreciate the size and breadth of IT IBM does, my "tiny" division of security if an independent company would be the 3rd biggest Security vendor in the market.
Re: IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
#9So does that mean we can finally stop listening to Cringely altogether? I am an IBM employee and I can tell you a lot of my fellow IBMers had a really bad week-end because of his ridiculous claims. For context see previous discussion on the 110000 employee layoff that won't happen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8944637
My guess is that he turns "possible strategic plan for 110k layoffs over the next five years starting in January 2015" into "110k layoffs in January 2015."
Re: IBM says 'several thousand' layoffs on the way
#10So does that mean we can finally stop listening to Cringely altogether? I am an IBM employee and I can tell you a lot of my fellow IBMers had a really bad week-end because of his ridiculous claims. For context see previous discussion on the 110000 employee layoff that won't happen: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8944637
I think for an error of this magnitude some kind of apology would be in order. If he can't manage that he's lost a lot of credibility.