Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
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Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
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Re: Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
#2I remember reading that Microsoft was moving the WPF framework into maintenance mode as they focus on the WinRT variant of UI development. Interesting that from the release notes, WPF appears to be getting feature development again. Hard to know without Windows 10 consumer announcements if Microsoft internally is back-tracking on the idea of fullscreen desktop apps.
Re: Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
#3I remember reading that Microsoft was moving the WPF framework into maintenance mode as they focus on the WinRT variant of UI development. Interesting that from the release notes, WPF appears to be getting feature development again. Hard to know without Windows 10 consumer announcements if Microsoft internally is back-tracking on the idea of fullscreen desktop apps.
Windows 10 looks like it will feature windowed 'modern' apps so it'd be surprising if they didn't push those apps even further now.
Re: Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
#4Does anyone know how the support for C++11 is looking in this version? It would be pretty great if Microsoft could finally close [the gap](http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2014/06/11/c-11-14-fe...) on C++11 support a mere four years after GCC and Clang completed their support for the standard. That would also give some hope that Visual Studio might have full support for C++14 in a year or two (which GCC and Clang have today). Is there an updated support chart somewhere?
Re: Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
#5Does anyone know how the support for C++11 is looking in this version? It would be pretty great if Microsoft could finally close [the gap]( http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2014/06/11/c-11-14-fe... ) on C++11 support a mere four years after GCC and Clang completed their support for the standard. That would also give some hope that Visual Studio might have full support for C++14 in a year or two (which GCC and C…
They are making progress.
The latest chart I saw (for the 2015 Preview ) is at
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2014/11/17/c-11-14-17...
Re: Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
#6Does anyone know how the support for C++11 is looking in this version? It would be pretty great if Microsoft could finally close [the gap]( http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2014/06/11/c-11-14-fe... ) on C++11 support a mere four years after GCC and Clang completed their support for the standard. That would also give some hope that Visual Studio might have full support for C++14 in a year or two (which GCC and C…
Re: Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
#7I remember reading that Microsoft was moving the WPF framework into maintenance mode as they focus on the WinRT variant of UI development. Interesting that from the release notes, WPF appears to be getting feature development again. Hard to know without Windows 10 consumer announcements if Microsoft internally is back-tracking on the idea of fullscreen desktop apps.
Enterprise backlashed and they had to respond. There is no need to suffer through backwards-compatible legacy stuff (JS, HTML, CSS) if you are not building something public-facing.
Re: Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
#8Does anyone know how the support for C++11 is looking in this version? It would be pretty great if Microsoft could finally close [the gap]( http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2014/06/11/c-11-14-fe... ) on C++11 support a mere four years after GCC and Clang completed their support for the standard. That would also give some hope that Visual Studio might have full support for C++14 in a year or two (which GCC and C…
Microsoft is doing a mix of C++11 and C++14 support.
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Visual-Studio/Connect-event-...
Still, outside the open source world, from all vendors selling compilers, Microsoft is the most up to date.
Before anyone mentions ICC, no not even version 15 is fully compliant.
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/c0x-features-suppo...
IBM just realeased XLC with partial C++11 support.
Others are even worse.
Re: Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
#9Does anyone know how the support for C++11 is looking in this version? It would be pretty great if Microsoft could finally close [the gap]( http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2014/06/11/c-11-14-fe... ) on C++11 support a mere four years after GCC and Clang completed their support for the standard. That would also give some hope that Visual Studio might have full support for C++14 in a year or two (which GCC and C…
Historically Visual C++ has never been the goto compiler for anyone interested in the latest feature set. They have always had an amazing optimizer since they've had to build NT with it. I doubt they're ever going to catch up to GCC/Clang. msvc has to remain ABI compatible with other MS C++ libs like MFC/ATL/etc, and so ABI breaking changes have to wait for the next major version of VC. I think some stuff like COM has work across multiple VC versions without ever breaking.
Re: Visual Studio 2015 CTP 5 Available
#10Does anyone know how the support for C++11 is looking in this version? It would be pretty great if Microsoft could finally close [the gap]( http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2014/06/11/c-11-14-fe... ) on C++11 support a mere four years after GCC and Clang completed their support for the standard. That would also give some hope that Visual Studio might have full support for C++14 in a year or two (which GCC and C…
Microsoft is doing a mix of C++11 and C++14 support. http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Visual-Studio/Connect-event-... Still, outside the open source world, from all vendors selling compilers, Microsoft is the most up to date. Before anyone mentions ICC, no not even version 15 is fully compliant. https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/c0x-features-suppo... IBM just realeased XLC with partial C++11 support. Others ar…
And odd bits of proposed C++17. Picking the low-hanging fruit, I imagine, based on their discussion of the difficulty in supporting other features.
I'm waiting impatiently for expression SFINAE. I like the features of C++ that let you write dynamic-esque code that's evaluated at compile time. It enables little bits of cleverness that save you from large complicated solutions.
> outside the open source world
Which is quite large, considering that Clang and GCC are the standard compilers for just about every major non-Microsoft platform, including the mobile ones.