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Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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On one hand I don't like the idea of surrendering to criminals, especially when you're giving them some kind of compensation, but on the other hand it's likely most or all of them will be arrested in the not-so-distant future. It's probably a net benefit if you appease them in the short term so they can cause as little damage as possible before they end up going away for good.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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post #2

On one hand I don't like the idea of surrendering to criminals, especially when you're giving them some kind of compensation, but on the other hand it's likely most or all of them will be arrested in the not-so-distant future. It's probably a net benefit if you appease them in the short term so they can cause as little damage as possible before they end up going away for good.

>but on the other hand it's likely most or all of them will be arrested in the not-so-distant future

People have been saying this for 3-4 months now.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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This kind of stuff is really upsetting. If you don't want people to do this kind of thing, you have to not encourage them. Even if they are all arrested, others will see this. And think, Hey I can get a reward for doing this stuff.

A 10 sec look at their twitter feed will tell you that they are doing this primarily to make a name for themselves. They want to be famous.

Yet what does every single news outlet do? Plaster their groups name all over every story. Even the BBC goes to mention them by name. Which is only going to encourage this behavior.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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The attacks against the Playstation Network have slowed, but PSN is still offline in the US.

I'm curious about the nature of these attacks. Are they using sheer network traffic or are they tying up the authentication servers with bogus requests? Has anyone seen a good technical description of what's happening?

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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This kind of stuff is really upsetting. If you don't want people to do this kind of thing, you have to not encourage them. Even if they are all arrested, others will see this. And think, Hey I can get a reward for doing this stuff. A 10 sec look at their twitter feed will tell you that they are doing this primarily to make a name for themselves. They want to be famous. Yet what does every single news outlet do? Plast…

>Yet what does every single news outlet do?

What they're supposed to? This is after all, news. You don't drop a story because you think someone is a cunt.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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post #2

On one hand I don't like the idea of surrendering to criminals, especially when you're giving them some kind of compensation, but on the other hand it's likely most or all of them will be arrested in the not-so-distant future. It's probably a net benefit if you appease them in the short term so they can cause as little damage as possible before they end up going away for good.

>but on the other hand it's likely most or all of them will be arrested in the not-so-distant future People have been saying this for 3-4 months now.

Take a look at the following Twitter: https://twitter.com/finestsquad

At least one of them, a 17-year-old from Canada, has already been arrested.

The personal information of most of the rest of the group has already been publicly spread by "Finest Squad" and sent to law enforcement (though I imagine law enforcement probably already knows who most of them are, especially if other random Internet users can find their names and addresses so easily).

At that point it's just a matter of monitoring and building up a strong enough case.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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So, any group of kids with access to one-click DDOS tools can extort $300,000USD worth of services out of a business by attacking large networks?

Is Kim really that proud of this precedent?

Will a $300k ransom be enough next time?

Maybe that's the future of high uptime public networks, an understanding that millions or even tens of millions per year must be set aside for bribes.

Sounds a bit like driving through a corrupt country where one must keep bribes on hand at all times to ensure non-molested travel.

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